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OldSchool 03-10-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10477301)
Joeckel sucks for 5 games = Bust.
Fisher sucks for an entire season = Excuses galore.

Jags fans should be thankful that the Rams took him out of his misery for the season.

OldSchool 03-10-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10477328)
There are literally 3 or 4 spots you just listed that had we taken a player there, we'd be in the same boat at that spot we are with OT now.

Jackson is likely walking, Lewis is gone, etc.

They drafted Fisher and betted on him developing into a quality starter by this coming season; to become a good enough player to replace Albert in the line-up without a drop off in play. I get why people are pissed because that seems like a tall order right now with how poorly he played at times last season.

It just sucks that we had the #1 pick last year and not this year.

The other thing is, we may actually have in-house answers for those guys. Commings should be better than Lewis, at least it's hard to be any worse. Bailey, Howard, and Catapano can easily take up the slack from Jackson; it's not like he was a dominant player or anything.

Eleazar 03-10-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10477296)
Just used the rotoworld cut to show you that others that aren't homers agreed with me as well. Was our game against the Jags not enough to show you that Joeckel wasn't very good before he got hurt? Let me guess, TAMU fan?

So you don't actually know anything about him.

BigMeatballDave 03-10-2014 02:49 PM

Sandy vaginas...

saphojunkie 03-10-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10477303)
Fisher is a Chief. He gets the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not defending Fisher at all. He played like absolute dogshit for most of the season. But you have to separate the pick from the player.

He was a solid pick, even though he wasn't at all what I wanted. I hated the pick, because I fundamentally disagreed with not swinging for the fences. That doesn't mean that it was a bad pick. It was just different than what I would have done. Drafting a potential franchise left tackle at first overall is a solid pick, no matter what.

Geno Smith would have been a solid pick.

Dion Jordan would have been a solid pick.

Star Lotuleilei.

Luke Joeckel.

They would have all been good bets at 1st overall. But sometimes good bets don't pay off, and sometimes they just don't pay off right away.

My argument is that you can't say he wasn't a good pick. He was one of the highest rated prospects in the draft at a position of need with a chance to take over one of the most impactful positions on the offense.

And those of you who think left tackle is somehow SO MUCH MORE valuable than right simply aren't paying attention to how the game is changing. It's like the nature of the third-down back or the nickel corner - these concepts are becoming outdated.

I'm not making excuses for Fisher, but I'm calling out the bullshit of people saying what a horrible pick it was. It's not like they line all the guys up and say "This guy is an all-pro player. This guy is a pro-bowler. This guy is a pile of turds." and then Dorsey looks them over and goes, "Hmmm... I'll take the turd."

You make guesses. Educated guesses. But it's always, no matter what, every time... a gamble.

Peyton Manning was a gamble. Andrew Luck was a gamble. They paid off.

Eric Fisher was a gamble. Dion Jordan, Star Lotuleilei... all of them.

Fisher just hasn't paid off. That doesn't make it a bad bet.

The Franchise 03-10-2014 03:54 PM

Manning and Luck are gambles?

Rausch 03-10-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10477516)

Fisher just hasn't paid off. That doesn't make it a bad bet.

That's exactly why it's a bad bet...

R8RFAN 03-10-2014 03:57 PM

Branden Albert agrees to deal with Dolphins for $10M per year
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...r-10m-per-year

Mother****erJones 03-10-2014 03:58 PM

Have fun in Miami. Good luck BA

R8RFAN 03-10-2014 03:58 PM

10 mil a year? Damn

Messier 03-10-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10477314)
So now come the "Oh well, Albert isn't that good anyway (now that he's not a Chief) complaints"?

Yeah, it works the other way too. Didn't we all kind of know he was leaving?

Rausch 03-10-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd&48ers (Post 10477536)
Branden Albert agrees to deal with Dolphins for $10M per year
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...r-10m-per-year

At least he was able to play in one playoff game...

R8RFAN 03-10-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10477547)
At least he was able to play in one playoff game...

Not looking good for my boys chances of keeping Veldheer...:shake:

Mojo Jojo 03-10-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10477525)
Manning and Luck are gambles?

Going into the week of the draft Manning wasn't the unanimous #1 pick by the so called "experts". So, yes it was a gamble even with Manning.

SeeingRed 03-10-2014 04:05 PM

Draft Tackle round 1 and sign Eric Decker or Hakeem Nicks??...or Draft a WR round 1?


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