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Sweet Daddy Hate 07-26-2015 05:32 PM

The defense winning a play off game is an absolute death-knell for KC having a legit QB anytime in the near future.

Is one victory worth no championships?

And before you question this, keep in mind that I do NOT have sit here and hypothesize Alex Smith improving and leading this offense.

That leopard ain't changing spots at this point in his career.

And, AND.......

If we subscribe to the theory that "franchise QB's are like finding leprechauns with pots of gold"(!), can we at least admit that above-average, or mid tier average are NOT hard to find?

RunKC 07-26-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11620165)
He was under the knife his first 2 off seasons. This is gonna be his first year playing left tackle after a full offseason of health and strength training and having Grubbs next to him will help, as well....especially after having the worst guard in the NFL next to him last year. That alone narrows his responsibilities and will help his effectiveness.

I'm expecting him to go from being a bottom 10 Lt last year to top 12 this year, or better.

I know that's not a huge statement, but it's big improvement on the field.

Fisher improved a lot last year.

"Fisher will look to pick up where he left off last season, when after giving up seven quarterback hits in the first two games, he surrendered just four total throughout the final 14 games."

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...5bd-46fa-a3d2-

99% of his struggles last year were because he got overpowered. I'm very eager to see how much his strength training helped him.

BossChief 07-26-2015 05:48 PM

That's not even close to being right.

ChiefGator 07-26-2015 05:50 PM

Sherrod is not good anymore... It's worth throwing at the wall, but don't expect any great results.

BigMeatballDave 07-26-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11620386)
That's not even close to being right.

Vague, much? The quote function is there for a reason. :)

BossChief 07-26-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11620361)
Fisher improved a lot last year.

"Fisher will look to pick up where he left off last season, when after giving up seven quarterback hits in the first two games, he surrendered just four total throughout the final 14 games."

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...5bd-46fa-a3d2-

99% of his struggles last year were because he got overpowered. I'm very eager to see how much his strength training helped him.

He gave up a lot more than just 4 hits over the last 14 games.

That's silly.

Hammock Parties 07-26-2015 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11620403)
He gave up a lot more than just 4 hits over the last 14 games.

That's silly.

Consider the source.

I think we've found the new Rufus Dawes.

Chiefaholic 07-26-2015 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11620161)
That doesn't mean they are headed in the right direction.

Once again... I don't believe you're really this ignorant. So I won't buy into your troll speak.

RunKC 07-26-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11620403)
He gave up a lot more than just 4 hits over the last 14 games.

That's silly.

According to PFF he gave up that many QB hits.

His rookie year, he gave up a cumulative 47 total QB pressures from sacks, hits and pressures.

Last year Fisher struggled the first 2 weeks giving up 10 combined pressures, most likely because Jeff Allen was lost for the season and he had to adjust playing with the worst G in NFL history.
The last 14 weeks, Fisher gave up a combined 32 pressures with the same snap count from his rookie season on the left side.

And his worst game from that stretch was when he gave up 5 QB hurries and a sack in Pittsburgh because James Harrison is one of the strongest players in the NFL and took advantage of Fisher's weakness.

Fisher also didn't have one negative run blocking score in the last 8 games.

The guy clearly improved from his rookie season. No he wasn't setting the world on fire, but he improved a lot considering his shoulder ****ed his weight training over and he had the worst G in NFL history right next to him.

We should expect Fisher to be much better this season and look like a top 10 tackle.

Hammock Parties 07-26-2015 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11620467)
We should expect Fisher to be much better this season and look like a top 10 tackle.

Avatar bet right now that Fisher is not in PFF's top 10 overall or in pass blocking.

RunKC 07-26-2015 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11620482)
Avatar bet right now that Fisher is not in PFF's top 10 overall or in pass blocking.

I don't know how I feel about their rankings. Kelvin Beachem gave up the same amount of sacks as Fisher and he was ranked 5th on their OT list.
In fact, he gave up more sacks than any of the other 32 top ranked OT's on the list and was also rated ahead of Tyron Smith.

Their rankings don't make sense to me.

Hammock Parties 07-26-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11620499)
I don't know how I feel about their rankings. Kelvin Beachem gave up the same amount of sacks as Fisher and he was ranked 5th on their OT list.
In fact, he gave up more sacks than any of the other 32 top ranked OT's on the list and was also rated ahead of Tyron Smith.

Their rankings don't make sense to me.

Total pressure allowed is more meaningful than sacks.

BryanBusby 07-26-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11620138)
That's the thing, though.

I tried to think of that grouping and had a hard time making that list. Most of our guys are younger and have been improving. The only older guys we have that might start to decline are coming off injury like DJ and Devito.....have high round replacements like with Tamba...and then possibly Grubbs.

This is a roster filled with young talent that is ascending, not in their 30s ready to fall off a cliff.

I do wonder how long Jamaal can keep playing at his level.

DaneMcCloud 07-26-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 11620391)
Sherrod is not good anymore... It's worth throwing at the wall, but don't expect any great results.

Anymore?

Gadzooks 07-26-2015 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11620499)
I don't know how I feel about their rankings. Kelvin Beachem gave up the same amount of sacks as Fisher and he was ranked 5th on their OT list.
In fact, he gave up more sacks than any of the other 32 top ranked OT's on the list and was also rated ahead of Tyron Smith.

Their rankings don't make sense to me.

How can you start using PFF stats to prove your point and then turn around and squash a bet, based on the same stats, because "Their rankings don't make sense"?


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