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JohnnyHammersticks 10-12-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11794801)
He's a motivator and knows the game.

He needs to look at Mike McCarthy in Green Bay and give OC duties to a qualified OC and coach the entire team. If Reid would do this, if Dorsey can convince him to do this, I do not mind Reid as a head coach whatsoever. The players absolutely love him and play hard for him. It's the mistakes and clock management that is his bane. That can be fixed by giving the offense over to a guy who can focus on just the offense.

They also should seriously start looking at hiring a guy like Kyle Wittingham at Utah for defensive coordinator. Runs a pro style set defensively (very similar to what the Chiefs run and would be an easy transition for our personnel) and always has Utah near the top defensively in D1. Sutton has to go. Today. There have been far too many second half shit the bed episodes to think that they are just a fluke at this point.

Sometimes I wonder if the main reason that players love him is because he's an easy coach to play for. Easy in terms of not demanding excellence at the expense of being their "friend". A perfect coach would meld both aspects, but if you have to only have one or the other, give me a son-of-a-bitch hard-ass that demands excellence and accountability over a friendly guy that the players love any day. This nice-guy shit is getting us nowhere.

I have no confidence whatsoever in Andy Reid having the coaching stones to bring a Super Bowl to KC. Not that CHunt would ever have the balls, but I'd be a happy man if I woke up tomorrow to find out that Clark had completely severed ties with Andy Reid as a football coach. I just don't see Reid as championship material. He had his time and was in his coaching prime in Philly. If he couldn't get the job done then, he's not going to get it done now, in my opinion.

BigCatDaddy 10-12-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11794801)
He's a motivator and knows the game.

He needs to look at Mike McCarthy in Green Bay and give OC duties to a qualified OC and coach the entire team. If Reid would do this, if Dorsey can convince him to do this, I do not mind Reid as a head coach whatsoever. The players absolutely love him and play hard for him. It's the mistakes and clock management that is his bane. That can be fixed by giving the offense over to a guy who can focus on just the offense.

They also should seriously start looking at hiring a guy like Kyle Wittingham at Utah for defensive coordinator. Runs a pro style set defensively (very similar to what the Chiefs run and would be an easy transition for our personnel) and always has Utah near the top defensively in D1. Sutton has to go. Today. There have been far too many second half shit the bed episodes to think that they are just a fluke at this point.

Yes. We need more shit stains from Utah :facepalm:

Saccopoo 10-12-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11795043)
Yes. We need more shit stains from Utah :facepalm:

And what makes you come to this conclusion other than your own stupidity? (Which isn't your fault anyway. It's really your parents fault for having sex on that one specific day that caused your conception and that all the genes aligned to give society what is what you are...a reerun.)

I don't give a shit who they pick as whatever coordinator.

However, Whittingham has shown himself to be a pretty good defensive play caller as well as a good head coach. Bowl record alone indicates that.

Do you even know football bro?

COchief 10-12-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 11795010)
A perfect coach would meld both aspects, but if you have to only have one or the other, give me a son-of-a-bitch hard-ass that demands excellence and accountability over a friendly guy that the players love any day. This nice-guy shit is getting us nowhere.

We had that coach...

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rabblerouser 10-12-2015 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by COchief (Post 11795155)
We had that coach...

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:hail::bravo:

HOT TODDY

BigCatDaddy 10-12-2015 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11795122)
And what makes you come to this conclusion other than your own stupidity? (Which isn't your fault anyway. It's really your parents fault for having sex on that one specific day that caused your conception and that all the genes aligned to give society what is what you are...a reerun.)

I don't give a shit who they pick as whatever coordinator.

However, Whittingham has shown himself to be a pretty good defensive play caller as well as a good head coach. Bowl record alone indicates that.

Do you even know football bro?

I know enough to be in the right side if the ASS11 debate since day 1... how about you vegan boy? Thats right. You have had ASS's balls on your tonsils.

Saccopoo 10-12-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11795192)
I know enough to be in the right side if the ASS11 debate since day 1... how about you vegan boy? Thats right. You have had ASS's balls on your tonsils.

Pretty sure I haven't.

However, I'm not a knee jerk negative reactionist that doesn't allow objectivity to enter into my stream of consciousness.

Smith was the best choice they had at the time. (And even after they traded for Smith, I still wanted them to draft Geno Smith in order to groom him for a couple of years under Reid/Smith for potential QBOTF duties.)

And if you look at my current mock on Draft Planet, surprise, surprise, surprise...what position do I have in the first round?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=294745

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/16/1639...71c52d5747.jpg

GloryDayz 10-12-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11794788)
Andy takes full responsibility. There are some things they have to do better going forward.

Hey, forward and backwards at the same time...

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rabblerouser 10-12-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 11795008)
It's sad that a week 2 loss no matter how awful of a choke job can derail an entire season. What a bunch of mental midgets we got running this clown show.

Exactly.

BigCatDaddy 10-12-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11795243)
Pretty sure I haven't.

However, I'm not a knee jerk negative reactionist that doesn't allow objectivity to enter into my stream of consciousness.

Smith was the best choice they had at the time. (And even after they traded for Smith, I still wanted them to draft Geno Smith in order to groom him for a couple of years under Reid/Smith for potential QBOTF duties.)

And if you look at my current mock on Draft Planet, surprise, surprise, surprise...what position do I have in the first round?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=294745

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/16/1639...71c52d5747.jpg

Why do you keep ignoring Carson Palmer?

Saccopoo 10-12-2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 11795488)
Why do you keep ignoring Carson Palmer?

Palmer would have been okay.

There was the shoulder issue/injury that's been an asterisk with him and Smith looked like he had a bit more upside from a standpoint of longevity/age and the system. (Definitely more mobile than Palmer.)

After the 2013 season, his last with the Raiders, he basically looked done. (Though that's probably a side effect of just being on the Raiders.)

He's having a pretty good year so far, but even in his last two years with the Bengals in 2009 and 2010 he looked toast and that's a hard call to make in terms of signing up a 33 year old pocket statue with a bad wing heading down what looked to be a rapidly declining path.

Smith was coming off a season in 2011 where he was leading the NFL in several statistical categories and the 49ers were surging. His benching was a weird call by Harbaugh all things considered at that point and one would have thought that a change of scenery and in an offense like Reid's that was basically tailored to the skills of Smith seemed to be a very nice fit.

2013 and 2014 saw back to back winning seasons for the first time in nearly 15 years and the 2015 season began promising as the Chiefs went 4-0 in the preseason against some pretty good defensive teams. They looked like they were going to make a serious push in the AFC.

However, after a good win in week one against a pretty solid Texans defense and an inspired performance by JJ Watt, it seems that the week two Denver loss has completely blown up the psyche of Smith, Sutton and Reid.

This team and those guys have gone to complete shit. Just a complete ****ing meltdown. Smith is making some really bad throws, making bad decisions in the pocket, holding onto the ball too long and the coaching staff is basically mirroring him in terms of some really questionable game time calls.

Smith, like an ace pitcher who is just getting shelled that one bad game, needs to take a seat on the bench and get his head together. Maybe that would also give Reid the impetus to readjust his thought process on the whole deal.

Hammock Parties 10-12-2015 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11795683)
Smith, like an ace pitcher who is just getting shelled that one bad game, needs to take a seat on the bench and get his head together.

Did this ever happen to Steve Young? You know, since Alex Smith is going to be spinning the pigskin like a HOFer any day now.

Wildcat2005 10-12-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11795683)
2013 and 2014 saw back to back winning seasons for the first time in nearly 15 years and the 2015 season began promising as the Chiefs went 4-0 in the preseason against some pretty good defensive teams. They looked like they were going to make a serious push in the AFC.

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please tell me this guy is like a satire, and not serious

Saccopoo 10-12-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11795735)
Did this ever happen to Steve Young? You know, since Alex Smith is going to be spinning the pigskin like a HOFer any day now.

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Hammock Parties 10-12-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11795807)

Uh, I think we're well past that stage of Alex's career. Jesus Christ, just give it up. It's not happening with this turd. EVER.


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