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beach tribe 09-14-2016 12:37 PM

I'm pretty sure he didn't come back from that injury the same, and was no longer worthy of a roster spot.

Meatloaf 09-14-2016 12:39 PM

Really hard to believe that they apparently missed so badly with thi draft selection. To just barely make it through preseason and then get cut? Gotta review that Decision Lens software for a bug of the highest order! Nonetheless, kudos to Dorsey for quickly admitting a draft fail. This actually gives me more hope for Dee Ford!

beach tribe 09-14-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12425892)
Does he have another bet out there? Because if you're talking about his bet with me, the bet was that he wouldn't have a 20 yard catch through the air all season. Hill hasn't accomplished that yet.

I own his Av and sig, since the PO win, for a full year.

Bet was made early 2015.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2016 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12425877)
He breaks a tackle, shimmies away from another would be tackler, and outruns pursuit to the endzone. ****ing scrub UDFA -

https://youtu.be/D519BF6IF0A?t=15s

I guess you can see what you want to see, but none of the defenders had a chance at him due to exquisite blocking (minus Parker Ehinger, hilariously enough). I think any WR on the roster would have scored.

In fact if you look at the end zone view, he has so much room to work with it's insane:

http://i.imgur.com/PYmRs8C.jpg

Marcellus 09-14-2016 12:40 PM

Clay is one seriously stubborn poster. Regardless of the countless times he has been wrong and its on pretty much everything, all the time, he just keeps putting his terrible football opinions out there.

ct 09-14-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12425688)
For as hell bent as Dorsey was on getting back into the third round (seriously, Captain Ahab wasn't as fixated as Dorsey was on the third round), he sure shit it away, didn't he?

So in effect, the Chiefs gave away an additional year of team control of Chris Jones for....nothing. Nothing at all. And that's what I hated about that trade down to begin with.

It wasn't Chris Jones, it was that if you really think Jones is a player, you just take him in the first and leverage the value of the player option to save yourself a shitload in the long-run. Agents are digging their heels in on franchise numbers now that they've gotten so high. The franchise tag isn't going to be much of a benefit for teams going forward. So if you can't get guys extended early, you're stuck fighting in the market for them.

One way to help get that extension is the threat of the 5th year option (see Fisher's deal, and Fisher's deal was even harder because the 5th year option for him was more than twice what it would be for a late first rounder).

The trade down failed.

49ers receive:
» 2016 first-round pick (No. 28): Joshua Garnett
» 2016 seventh-round pick (No. 249): Prince Charles Iworah

Chiefs receive:
» 2016 second-round pick (No. 37): Chris Jones
» 2016 fourth-round pick (No. 105): Parker Ehinger
» 2016 sixth-round pick (No. 178): D.J. White



Buccaneers receive:
» 2016 second-round pick (No. 59): Roberto Aguayo

Chiefs receive:
» 2016 third-round pick (No. 74): KeiVarae Russell
» 2016 fourth-round pick (No. 106): Eric Murray

2016 NFL Draft trade details

DaneMcCloud 09-14-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12425791)
Why would you assume that not making the Jones trade would've stopped them from making the other trade out of the 2nd?

It was a simple exercise to look at what the draft would have looked like, based on the decisions made during those three days and slotted those guys.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12425791)
Volume of picks isn't as important as quality and maximizing their value.

That's easy in theory but tough in practice.

Well run organizations with extra picks generally find more talent than those with lessor picks, due to the hit and miss nature of the draft.

Look no further than 2016 as proof, with the Chiefs apparently hitting on DJ White yet missing on Russell.

The draft is far from an exact science and I'm elated that the Chiefs finally have a front office that's willing to create the best roster possible each year, regardless of whether it's a "bad look", as the dipshit Adam Teicher has suggested.

Hammock Parties 09-14-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12425882)
And exactly what would be wrong with having a player on mcclusters level if we are asking that person to be our fifth option as a weapon and has high potential on special teams?

Absolutely nothing, but some think he's going to be our slot receiver. ROFL

Sassy Squatch 09-14-2016 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12425905)
I guess you can see what you want to see, but none of the defenders had a chance at him due to exquisite blocking (minus Parker Ehinger, hilariously enough). I think any WR on the roster would have scored.

In fact if you look at the end zone view, he has so much room to work with it's insane:

http://i.imgur.com/PYmRs8C.jpg

What did Ehinger do wrong? The only guy that puts his hands on him was blocked by Maclin.

DaneMcCloud 09-14-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ct (Post 12425907)
49ers receive: » 2016 first-round pick (No. 28): Joshua Garnett

Joshua Garnett not active against the Rams

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san...101478712.html

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Originally Posted by ct (Post 12425907)
» 2016 seventh-round pick (No. 249): Prince Charles Iworah

Inactive against the Rams

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Chris Jones - rotational player
Parker Ehinger - starter
Eric Murray - active
DJ White - 1 tackle

SAUTO 09-14-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12425881)
Put in the right place so the receiver can run with it in stride.

Bullshit.

It wasn't even a good pass. It was high and to his left. And he wasn't running so how did he catch it in stride?

beach tribe 09-14-2016 12:45 PM

Anyone would have scored there.

Who gives a shit?

Hammock Parties 09-14-2016 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12425912)
What did Ehinger do wrong? The only guy that puts his hands on him was blocked by Maclin.

nothing. just didn't contribute to the play, which I find a little funny since he's the one OL I've singled out in this thread. ROFL

Hammock Parties 09-14-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12425902)
I own his Av and sig, since the PO win, for a full year.

Bet was made early 2015.

good thing i only have to wear this for a few months, eh? you should have acted sooner.

beach tribe 09-14-2016 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12425910)
Absolutely nothing, but some think he's going to be our slot receiver. ROFL

Yeah, because it would be impossible to beat out the incumbents.


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