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pugsnotdrugs19 12-11-2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15389343)
Picked MIA to win?

Yep. They’re all over it.

I can see the path — Miami heat in December, Chiefs have been playing down to the wire games, Dolphins have a defense that can make stops and create turnovers.

But I think they’re going to struggle to score on Kansas City a lot more than most seem to expect. I’m standing by a 27-16 Chiefs prediction where we score toward the end to put it away.

Megatron96 12-11-2020 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15389347)
Yep. They’re all over it.

I can see the path — Miami heat in December, Chiefs have been playing down to the wire games, Dolphins have a defense that can make stops and create turnovers.

But I think they’re going to struggle to score on Kansas City a lot more than most seem to expect. I’m standing by a 27-16 Chiefs prediction where we score toward the end to put it away.

The Chiefs would have to really, really play down to MIA's offensive efficiency for the Dolphins to have a real chance at winning. I think they have a good chance to cover 7 points, but that's about it.

O.city 12-11-2020 07:29 PM

If the chiefs are locked in they’ll beat the shit out of them

Same as every game this season.

The chiefs are that much better than everyone

ptlyon 12-11-2020 07:35 PM

Chiefs won Sunday night. Steelers lost Monday night. Blood is in the water, and that's not good for a dolphin.

Red Dawg 12-11-2020 08:22 PM

Rip their eyeballs out and skull **** them!

KChiefs1 12-12-2020 10:00 AM

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pugsnotdrugs19 12-12-2020 10:10 AM

Mahomes is 7-0 in his career against top 5 scoring defenses, which the Dolphins currently are.

MahomesMagic 12-12-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15389159)
MIA defense gave up 31 pts to both BUF and SEA, 28 to the Rams, 31 to ARI, and 29 pts to LAC.

None of those offenses are anywhere near the same efficiency as the Chiefs. The closest might be SEA or BUF.

And MIA hasn't played a decent QB in over a month, and haven't played a top 5 offense since SEA.

This might be a smoke and mirrors situation. Their defense has played pretty well since their bye week in week 8, but they've only played Goff and Kyler, and haven't played a good offense since.

Judging from the film, to generate consistent pressure they have to bring extra men and blitz, and we know you can't blitz Patrick. And their CBs are good, but none of them are good/fast enough to go 1v1 with Hill, and no one can go 1v1 with Kelce.

If I were Andy I'd try to attack using misdirection (Dolphins defense looked susceptible to overrunning plays), stretch the field horizontally and look for big plays on crossers. Try to blow the game open early, and lean on the run game to salt the game away.

MIA may have a good/great defense, but their offense looks kind of simple, they have maybe two or three legit weapons, and none of them are RBs. Find a way to lock down Parker and Gesicki, and make Tua throw to anyone else. Even if they can move the ball down and score, it won't be fast enough to match KC.

But honestly, i think Spags feasts on Tua and this MIA offense. If Mathieu plays, he could have a career-type day.



That Buffalo game their top corner was out and they played Igo on Diggs the whole game. That didn't go so well.

Red Dawg 12-12-2020 10:37 AM

Wilson out and Tyrann is questionable. Crap balls.

UChieffyBugger 12-12-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15389340)
I’ve probably saw more talking heads pick the Dolphins to win than any Chiefs opponent since Baltimore, week 3.

Like who exactly? All i've seen is folks picking them to cover...the vast majority are picking a Chiefs win.

KChiefs1 12-12-2020 10:49 AM

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RaidersOftheCellar 12-12-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15389419)
If the chiefs are locked in they’ll beat the shit out of them

Same as every game this season.

The chiefs are that much better than everyone

I think the Chiefs have the best A game, but I’m not sure their typical performance is on a different level than everyone else’s.

I think the combination of coaching staff, QB and skill players is easily the best in the league. But I saw some stats the other day that confirmed what I suspected. KC’s rate of “winning” at run-blocking is worst in the league. They’re near the worst at stopping the run. And their pass rush has been a little below average.

If you swapped coaching staffs and QB/receivers with the Jets, we might be as bad as they are. Obviously those people mask our problems well, but the bottom line is that it’s not a team that can just line up and overwhelm you physically. Winning at the rate they have has required them to be consistently smart, creative, efficient and mistake-free.

chiefzilla1501 12-12-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15389159)
MIA defense gave up 31 pts to both BUF and SEA, 28 to the Rams, 31 to ARI, and 29 pts to LAC.

None of those offenses are anywhere near the same efficiency as the Chiefs. The closest might be SEA or BUF.

And MIA hasn't played a decent QB in over a month, and haven't played a top 5 offense since SEA.

This might be a smoke and mirrors situation. Their defense has played pretty well since their bye week in week 8, but they've only played Goff and Kyler, and haven't played a good offense since.

Judging from the film, to generate consistent pressure they have to bring extra men and blitz, and we know you can't blitz Patrick. And their CBs are good, but none of them are good/fast enough to go 1v1 with Hill, and no one can go 1v1 with Kelce.

If I were Andy I'd try to attack using misdirection (Dolphins defense looked susceptible to overrunning plays), stretch the field horizontally and look for big plays on crossers. Try to blow the game open early, and lean on the run game to salt the game away.

MIA may have a good/great defense, but their offense looks kind of simple, they have maybe two or three legit weapons, and none of them are RBs. Find a way to lock down Parker and Gesicki, and make Tua throw to anyone else. Even if they can move the ball down and score, it won't be fast enough to match KC.

But honestly, i think Spags feasts on Tua and this MIA offense. If Mathieu plays, he could have a career-type day.

Only issue is I can see Flores running a bellichick like defense. Xavien Howard is a good CB. They'll hit kelce every borderline legal way possible. They'll probably play bend don't break so we're not going to light them up with a ton of long td passes. Like NE we'll easily move the ball down the field but we have got to be better in the red zone. I don't want to keep trading field goals.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-12-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15390079)
I think the Chiefs have the best A game, but I’m not sure their typical performance is on a different level than everyone else’s.

I think the combination of coaching staff, QB and skill players is easily the best in the league. But I saw some stats the other day that confirmed what I suspected. KC’s rate of “winning” at run-blocking is worst in the league. They’re near the worst at stopping the run. And their pass rush has been a little below average.

If you swapped coaching staffs and QB/receivers with the Jets, we might be as bad as they are. Obviously those people mask our problems well, but the bottom line is that it’s not a team that can just line up and overwhelm you physically. Winning at the rate they have has required them to be consistently smart, creative, efficient and mistake-free.

Mentor of mine who knows his sports always said, tell me who the QBs and head coaches are and I can tell you who 90% of the playoff teams are going to be before a snap is ever played. My belief was the other 10% is usually teams being carried by a great defense or a super weak schedule.

Obviously not a statistical guarantee year in and year out but his point was heard. Yeah, the Chiefs are a lot worse if they don’t have Reid and Mahomes. But because they do, they’re the best.

staylor26 12-12-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15390079)
I think the Chiefs have the best A game, but I’m not sure their typical performance is on a different level than everyone else’s.

I think the combination of coaching staff, QB and skill players is easily the best in the league. But I saw some stats the other day that confirmed what I suspected. KC’s rate of “winning” at run-blocking is worst in the league. They’re near the worst at stopping the run. And their pass rush has been a little below average.

If you swapped coaching staffs and QB/receivers with the Jets, we might be as bad as they are. Obviously those people mask our problems well, but the bottom line is that it’s not a team that can just line up and overwhelm you physically. Winning at the rate they have has required them to be consistently smart, creative, efficient and mistake-free.

What a shit ****ing take. We’ve been getting their “typical performance” for most of the year and we’re 11-1.


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