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Sassy Squatch 12-24-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17295519)
Dude, we had Tyreek here. Pickens would be fine in kc. He’s not fine in qb hell Pittsburgh.

LMAO Tyreek on his worst days doesn't come close to Pickens. Think of ALL the talented WRs Pittsburgh has had in their system that had some sort of issue under Tomlin. Brown, Sanders, Wallace, Bryant, JJSS, Claypool, Johnson, and now Pickens. Feel free to go and check, but I don't think I've ever seen the players in the organization turn on any of them like they already have Pickens. The only other one is Leveon Bell, and that was due to the holdout.

And again. Reid did a ton of homework on him, in person. Top 30 visit and multiple interviews. Decided his talents weren't worth the hassle. Judging by his antics, he was probably right, but shouldn't have settled on an abysmal WR like Moore instead

Kiimo 12-24-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17295519)
Dude, we had Tyreek here. Pickens would be fine in kc. He’s not fine in qb hell Pittsburgh.

Maybe? That's a big assumption though. Marcus Peters wasn't fine here. I think Pickens is even a bigger headcase than Peters and we're just scratching the surface of what he's going to become.


And I'm not saying I'm happy with Skyy Moore either, just that people are assuming the Chiefs made a mistake not taking Pickens and I think that jury is still extremely out.


edit: kind of beaten by sassy

New World Order 12-24-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17295531)
LMAO Tyreek on his worst days doesn't come close to Pickens. Think of ALL the talented WRs Pittsburgh has had in their system that had some sort of issue under Tomlin. Brown, Sanders, Wallace, Bryant, JJSS, Claypool, Johnson, and now Pickens. Feel free to go and check, but I don't think I've ever seen the players in the organization turn on any of them like they already have Pickens. The only other one is Leveon Bell, and that was due to the holdout.

And again. Reid did a ton of homework on him, in person. Top 30 visit and multiple interviews. Decided his talents weren't worth the hassle. Judging by his antics, he was probably right, but shouldn't have settled on an abysmal WR like Moore instead

Imagine Tyreek with Zach Wilson right now.

With how vocal he is, it would be worse.

-King- 12-24-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17295537)
Maybe? That's a big assumption though. Marcus Peters wasn't fine here. I think Pickens is even a bigger headcase than Peters and we're just scratching the surface of what he's going to become.


And I'm not saying I'm happy with Skyy Moore either, just that people are assuming the Chiefs made a mistake not taking Pickens and I think that jury is still extremely out.

And we got a 2nd round pick out of Peters.

No matter how you slice it, Pickens would have been a good addition here. At worst, he produces with us, but is a locker room issues and we have to trade him for a 1st to 3rd round pick.

Sassy Squatch 12-24-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17295540)
Imagine Tyreek with Zach Wilson right now.

With how vocal he is, it would be worse.

What does that have to do with anything? Pickens gets his. He always has. And he's STILL a miserable **** that won't play for his teammates and makes booboo face every time someone on the offense that isn't him scores a TD.

Titty Meat 12-24-2023 12:21 PM

How is this even a discussion dudes a grade A clown

RunKC 12-24-2023 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17295542)
And we got a 2nd round pick out of Peters.

No matter how you slice it, Pickens would have been a good addition here. At worst, he produces with us, but is a locker room issues and we have to trade him for a 1st to 3rd round pick.

Nobody is giving a 1st for Pickens lol

-King- 12-24-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17295583)
Nobody is giving a 1st for Pickens lol

Welp gotta settle for a 2nd. Rats!

chiefzilla1501 12-24-2023 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17295515)
So again, Reid brings in players with issues and either rehabs them or gets rid of them?

You're so all over the place here.

No I’m not all over the place. Reid literally said when he rejected desean Jackson that he looks for very specific locker room guys. So you’re the one that’s trying to go against what Andy Reid is directly saying. Weve had plenty of shady guys but we haven’t had an awful teammate like Pickens since peters (maybe mathieu, which came late and unexpected)… and you’re so convinced it’s because Reid is some kind of rehab artist as opposed to making a specific point to avoid scouting guys who can divide the locker room.

Yeah he was a little looser in Philly until he got burned big time by TO/desean. Dorsey went a little rogue at times and continued to in Cleveland. But overall the story is generally the same especially with veach… he’s taken chances on a few midseason bandaids on prove it contracts, but when we do take longer term shots at character risks they stress how they did a LOT of homework. When you hear about the circumstances leading to drafting kelce and tyreek you hear that they did a LOT of due diligence on them. And they were right about those guys. And so far it looks like they were right about Pickens.

tredadda 12-24-2023 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17295540)
Imagine Tyreek with Zach Wilson right now.

With how vocal he is, it would be worse.

Would Tyreek make business decisions to not block? Or have rumors swirl about his work ethic? Those are far bigger issues than him being a diva.

Chris Meck 12-24-2023 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17295540)
Imagine Tyreek with Zach Wilson right now.

With how vocal he is, it would be worse.

But ZACH WILSON IS ELITE.

I heard it here on CP.

tredadda 12-24-2023 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17295673)
But ZACH WILSON IS ELITE.

I heard it here on CP.

LMAO True.

chiefzilla1501 12-24-2023 02:01 PM

I honestly don’t know how you can look at how badly Reid was burned by TO and desean and think Reid is at all willing to throw a wolf in his henhouse. Those weren’t guys he just tossed out. Those guys did years worth of damage even after they left.

RunKC 12-24-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17295594)
Welp gotta settle for a 2nd. Rats!

I doubt any team will want to give up that much for a problem player like him. They saw the Steelers rat **** the Bears with Claypool. A lesson in trading for a troubled Steelers WR.

Skyy God 12-24-2023 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17295769)
I doubt any team will want to give up that much for a problem player like him. They saw the Steelers rat **** the Bears with Claypool. A lesson in trading for a troubled Steelers WR.

AB and Martavious Bryant trades also worked out poorly for the Raiders.

Going back farther, the guy they traded to Miami when they paid AB instead.


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