I agree. It's clear just from watching NFL football that QB-friendly spread offense ideas are becoming more and more prevalent in the pros.

What it means is that the bust factor for QBs has been lessened. Depending on if your team's offensive coordinator is smart or not, it's arguably the least risky time in NFL history to draft a 1st round QB.

Sanchez has/had the potential, but has his head up his ass so much he may never establish that potential.

I would have been astounded had Sanchez beaten the odds (although I also say he still has time to...). The book is still out on Tannehill, and he may end up fine. But I didn't and still don't think either of them warranted the price paid.

Look, not everybody has to agree, that's the whole point of having discussions. You're okay with giving up the moon for the chance at an "also ran" prospect turning into a franchise player, and that's fine. I can respect that. But I'm not. If I'm giving up the moon, it's only going to be for an actual franchise calibre talent, someone like Luck or Griffin. Not plan C guys like we're discussing.

I think what it really comes down to is that you've been beaten into submission by the franchise to the point where you've ever given up on ever getting a real top guy, you're so desperate for a QB that you'd take whatever you can get. You can't draft Peyton Manning so you're trying to draft what amounts to Trent Green or Rich Gannon.

I don't even know how to explain Sanchez. I liked Stafford better but Sanchez shouldn't be that bad. I'm amazed it hasn't had more attention. The guy has literally had under 50% completions four straight games. That's historically bad.

The way LT talks about sanchez on nfl network, its like he doesn't havd any faith in him, like sanchezdoesnt put in the work.

Yep, he's too into the "Broadway Joe" type of lifestyle off the field and isn't honing his craft like he should.

Geno Smith is not Trent Green or Rich Gannon.

They guy is one of the most accurate college passers ever. He's got an insanely quick release. He's got legit size. He's got a great (not good - great) arm. Fabulous pocket presence. ETC.

This is not beaten into submission just to take a QB. This is taking a guy who is a legitimate top five guy and a potential All-Pro sooner rather than later. He's better than Griffin at the same stage. Easily.

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and make him a safety.

its impressive because hes

a) a rookie
b) was suppose to be green as grass/raw and everyone expected him to be Blaine Gabbert esque
c) HE PLAYS ON AN OFFENSE THAT HAS SOME OF THE CRAPPIEST TALENT IN THE NFL

Davone Bess, Brian Hartline, Anthony Fasano... lol that is a ****ing sad list of targets

oh and his OC is/was a dogshit failure in the NFL. And lucked into the job again

And hasn't done shit against good defenses.

Excellent.

Now, because of your superb analysis, you have convinced me that the Chiefs should pass on Smith if given the chance and pick Sam Montgomery to back up Houston and Hali.

I hope that the Chiefs fans treat you better than they did Scott Pioli, you new Mr. New GM of the Chiefs.

****ing ****tard.

They didn't give up a bunch of picks or any to get him, nor did he get an outrageous contract. How exactly did Miami pay an overwhelming price when they obviously did not have a franchise QB?

The Dolphins would of paid a much bigger price if they settled with the mediocre Matt Moore instead of taking a shot.

Think of the candy wrappers on the floor, man.

Geno Smith wishes he could throw as accurate of a deep ball as RGIII.

The ideology of drafting Quarterbacks by a lot of Chiefs fans is mind blowing.

"Well gosh we sure don't suck enough for a good QB"
"Boy howdy we suck, BUT THERE ISN'T A PEYTON MANNING IN THIS DRAFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT"

You guys are pessimistic mother****ers.

If you want suck stick with Cassel. Otherwise go after something damn good.

At any rate, I'd just be ****ing happy with a QB that just didn't make dumbass mistakes over and over again and can put the team on their back every once in awhile.

If we can land an Aaron Rodgers type of QB, great. This team will be a contender with a Matt Ryan, too. I mean ****, we almost went undefeated with Kyle Orton.

The top 3 have enough ability to get the team to where it needs to be, as long as they don't botch the development.

sorry, but this is just a classed up version of 'of noes it risky!'

if sanchez and tannehill are "plan C" guys for you, then you're never going to draft a QB...

i can't believe after all this time that people still believe this stuff...

People thought Joe Flacco, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Christian Ponder and Andy Dalton weren't worthy of top picks either...and all those guys have turned out to be pretty good QBs.

He has one bad game (it wasn't even that terrible FFS) against a mediocre defense, and all of a sudden he can't beat good defenses.

Geno Smith is on his 3rd ****ing year of playing good defenses, and has had success against them in the past. God almighty Jesus Christ!

Everybody said Texas was a great challenge for Geno. He raped them silly, and now all of a sudden they suck? Ten bucks says if Geno raped Texas Tech you ****ers STILL wouldn't be impressed because Texas Tech doesn't have a good defense.

**** me, the stupidity in this forum makes me want to put my dick in the oven

One game closer to the top pick. And the Browns won today!

Great signature man...

Another step closer...Now tied for the #1 pick in the draft!

KC's opponents have a worse winning % than the Browns. The Chiefs have the #1 pick currently secured

This! Seriously, I don't get where all the hate on geno is coming from.

TT only gives up 16 points a game. Texas gives up 32 including 63 to OU. That is a big ****ing difference jackass. Show me a game Geno had without having to catch up. if garbage time numbers make a player great then CasseLLLLL is the shit. So bake that Vienna sausage bitch.

I'm on board. Geno or Wilson (I still like him a lot) have to be on our team next year. Still torn on Barkley. None of the others like Murray or jones will do

Ummm...how about the 2012 Orange Bowl where West Virginia rang up 70 points on the #13 ranked Clemson Tigers?

Geno was 31 of 42 for 401 yards (eclipsed Tom Brady's Orange Bowl yardage record) and six TD's in that one (another Orange Bowl record).

I'm sorry if you're offended that I don't like taking what I see as second round talent in the top 10 picks. :shrug:

I'm not sure about Geno. When WV got behind he kind of just faded away. KC needs a leader at QB. I don't really see him as a top 10 pick. I'm not even sure he's a first rounder.

This seems like a bad year for QBs and that sucks because we really need one. If I had to pick, I would take Wilson if I had my choice. I know this probably isn't the popular choice but, it's the way I see it.

Need more evidence on Geno. Realize I am in the minority, and my opinion could change. But TT is not that good, and Geno was pedestrian at best.

not offended, just pointing out that your warped sense of QB value would preclude us from ever drafting one...

and even if you were right, i'd rather 'reach' (so risky!) for a QB than any other position...as it is far and away the most important position

but we'll continue along not 'reaching' (too risky) for QBs while drafting DL and pretending somehow we'll accomplish something...

go ****ing kill yourself and don't ever post on the planet again you stupid piece of shit

The Tony Romo, Vince Young, Mike Vick backwards hat thing bothers me. We need a grown up at QB. Our QB needs to be a leader. I think Smith is smart but, he's not a leader imo.

Chill out Talking Can. Everyone has an opinion.

this isn't the place where everyone with an opinion is special and gets a gold star for participating...

and if you think Smith is not 'intelligent' then you need to be beat to death with an aids hammer...

your momma has to love you...and she also has to love us when we pay her

Get bent. "You're not representing Chiefs fans very well, Talking Can." Says the ****ing racist.

No, I'm not joking. Black people talk differently than white people, so I guess that means Geno sounds stupid to you? Do some ****ing research on the guy before you call him stupid. He's actually quite brilliant.

No wonder you suck at evaluating QBs. The eyeholes in your white sheet weren't big enough for you to see properly.

Go **** your mother you cancerous polyp on the anus of humanity.

**** you, racist.

Friendly and cordial. The Chiefs Planet motto.

I know he's a smart guy and was in gifted classes as a kid and what not. I'm not saying he is dumb. I am saying he has got some leadership issues and hasn't grown up yet. Wilson seems to be the only real leader out of the bunch.

Everybody has the right to an opinion. But when your opinion is proven wrong, you don't get to keep claiming it, unless you want to be called a reeruned racist.

"We need a grown up at QB"

**** yourself.

he's smarter than you, you dumb honkey...

now quit bothering me, and come get your mom out of my trash can

How about YOU provide some evidence that he's not intelligent, you reerun? Instead of just hearing him talk and assuming he's stupid.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. That's what made you this ****ing stupid in the first place.

****ing idiot.

actually, our motto is that noobs are worthless assholes

**** you.

fans like you are an embarrassment...please god, drink antifreeze

you know what fat skinhead taints smell like, you pussy

You have yet to address the fact that your ingrained racial bias saw his dark skin, big ears, and hat worn backwards, then heard him talk like most black people talk. From that, your small mind came to the conclusion WITH NO PRIOR EVIDENCE that the guy sounds unintelligent.

Oh, and if the dude is a master painter, was in gifted classes, and fiercely devotes himself to watching film, that doesn't mean he's NOT stupid, right? There you go again. A mountain of evidence went in your face to disprove your initial racial bias. You had the chance to accept it and change, and instead you chose to dismiss the evidence. Don't want to call black guys intelligent over nothing! Besides, black guy talk funny... must be stupid.

"Let's see his Wonderlic." Hahahaha **** YOU

NTTAWWT

Ryan Leaf used to wear his hat backwards. He got a 27 on the wonderlic. Peyton Manning got a 28 on the test and he never wore his hat backwards. :)

If you watch him interviewed, I think you will find it has nothing to do with race. He talks like Randy Moss. There is definately some country twang in there. It's his mannerisms and the way he carries himself.

Maybe none of this will matter but, there are definately flags and reminders of past players in my opinion.

"Way to poorly reflect Chiefs fans to the national media."

Go suck on Cassel's tiny pure white cock, racist. Take your ball and go home.

do everyone a favor: grab a fork, jam it in your eye

thanks

How does he poorly carry himself?

(This ought to be good).

You know who else has a "country twang" and poorly carries himself? Kevin Durant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOxIbkUylg8

Peyton Manning Country twang = Okay.
Geno Smith Country twang = bad.

Okay got it. Thanks Michael Richards.

Watch the interview after the Orange Bowl for example. I guess you either see it or you don't. "You know?"

He's not a QB. That's the point. We need our QB to be the uncontested leader of our team. No position in sports is more important than QB.

Kevin Durant is not that uncontested leader for the Thunder?

He's not a QB. Also, the whole country twang thing was just an example of how this has nothing to do with racial profiling.

Either you see it or you don't I guess.

And good thing. Those goofy glasses and backpacks he wears. He looks like he's having fun. And that country twang! Awful!

You know who would make a great QB? Hitler.

Yep. Can't get behind a guy like this. :facepalm:

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You know what guys respond to leadership wise? Guys who can play.

Do you think Chiefs players feel compelled to follow Matt Cassel??? Yeah neither do it. Everybody can see this guy can't get the job done.

Except when he gets behind a couple of scores and that is pretty important in my opinion.

A ridiculous argument.

Yep. You're right. He hasn't shown the ability to score points to bring a team back.

You'll excuse me though if I rely more on the scouts who will have him rated as a top 5 pick vs whatever you have him at won't you? ;)

So at 1st it was a leadership issue. Now it's an inability to bring a team back. Which is it?

At least Mark Castle doesn't sound like an idiot when he vomits out pre-programmed coach speak. Boy, now THAT takes intelligence, grit, and leadership to say what he says the way he says it!

They are the same thing.

Hey SNR knows talent Woodchuck.

He has Terrance Copper as his little profile pic.

Haahahahaha

Yeah, the guy that THROWS HIS WHOLE TEAM UNDER THE BUS MULTIPLE TIMES is "the only real leader out of the bunch".

Might as well say you don't like him because he is another Michael Vick, Vince Young, akili Smith type player.

Go **** your cat.

<3

Ahh...back in the only thread that matters in life.

Oh shit...

Reach out and grab the Chocolate Snake.

That n00b bout to get RAPED :eek:

I thought the same thing until I watched the actual interview after the Alabama game.

Also, Akili Smith was not like Mike Vick or Vince Young but he does come to mind when I think about Geno Smith. Akili was not like Vick or Young at all. He was a pocket QB for the most part.

I'm not sure about any of these talent scouts around here. It is way to early to start crowning quarterbacks.

Akili Smith had ONE year of starting experience in college, and exploded onto the scene. Geno Smith has been through an option read, pro, and now Dana Holgerson's system. He's excelled at ALL of them. The dude can absorb a playbook like a mother****er.

Also, Akili Smith was a pocket QB? Bullshit. The dude had far more athletic ability than Geno Smith and tended to run at the first sign of trouble. What failed him was that he couldn't absorb the offense, he was jittery and nervous when dropping back to pass, and he also had zero touch or consistent accuracy on his throws. All are problems that Geno ABSOLUTELY does not possess.

Got any more failed comparisons to make, racist? Your last one of Akili Smith was just a flailing attempt to make ANY criticism stick, thus affirming you as not a racist (which you are).

You're just like BlackBob. Wouldn't surprise me if you really are.

I'm not even going to bother. The dude will just delete his posts like a bitch and say it's because he's frustrated.

What he really means is he's racist, not frustrated.

**** you. I'm not a racist. You shouldn't go around accusing people of that when you don't know jack shit about them.

Akili Smith ran for like 300 yards a year in college and he started two seasons. There are alot of similarities about the two. The throwing motion, the offense, their body types, their height, and most of all - the hype.

So what is with the Black Bob thing? Is this some sort of noob hazing thing?

Some of the arguments around here I can see. Others are just really stupid. So stupid that I don't believe them. Some of this has got to be a joke. I'll tell you one thing, I am positive the idiots who cheered when Casse got hurt are from this place. It is obvious.

The only thing that is comparable between Akili and Geno is their skin color, you ****ing racist moron. GTFO. They have a completely different throwing motion, different movements within the pocket, and mostly, Geno has developed an ability to execute the AirRaid system (nearly all NFL teams are using the concepts the AirRaid emphasizes in their hurry up/no-huddle, go through his progressions, and is primarily a pocket passer.

The only thing obvious here is that you don't really watch college football.

Sorter joining the n00b beat down. Well done Sorter.