I believe that ratface junior in feces town could do some interesting things with Carr. He would need to bring Carr along slowly to allow him to get a grip on his shit, but the 9ers could put packages in there to allow him to succeed, imo.

His cold weather splits are bad too.

If I were a GM thinking about acquiring him, that would be really concerning. The guy lucked out by never getting skewered in the playoffs in a cold weather game.

Colts seem kinda predictable as a landing spot.

Considering what the Whiners have gotten out of what they have at QB, Carr would likely thrive in SF. Hell, it would his first time with an even average defense as an NFL QB.

Sounding more and more like Mark Davis is the one who made this decision.

Raiders will suck as long as he is the owner.

If we're putting Vrabel in there, then why not Kingsbury and Kevin O'Connell?

The problem is, given his history all the way back to the 2009-2010 Broncos, Josh doesn’t deserve that benefit of the doubt. The fact a section of the Raiders fan base is so trusting in him making the right move is puzzling. We’ve seen how this plays out before.

Damn, I thought the Alex Smith fans were bad. How does McDaniels have any fans that aren’t directly related to him?

This is absolutely the right decision. Lose 2 more games to position for a QB in the draft, while keeping Carr healthy to get out from under the burden of his contract. I hate to see it. Fortunately I trust the Raiders to **** up everything else and remain irrelevant.

This is the correct move. Possibly a #3 pick if they lose out and they should be able to draft a QB.

Chiefs fans will be ecstatic if the Raiders draft a potential franchise QB.

And probably a competent coach.

Never had a competent coach.

But why would Carr go there? He's going to have his pick. I know it seems perfect for Indy's side but I'm not sure what he gains by going there.

He should go to the NFC probably

Atlanta. NFC south is gonna be super shitty again and ATL does have some offensive weapons.

That's not bad. They should have held on to Calvin Ridley though.


edit: and I'd definitely hold on to my dynasty TE Pitts in that case. Carr knows how to find TEs in the end zone if Waller is any indication.

Washington would be a really good landing place for him. Good receiving corps. Tough defense. Rivera is a good coach. Carr in Washington would be quite interesting.

I'm trying to wrap my head around who the hell would want him as a starter. Backup maybe.

I think Carr can have a winning season if he has a good/great defense and the new coach plays to his strengths (lets him have input).

Washington would be a great fit for Carr.

Other than Carr being a raider and sucking as a QB I have no reason to hate him. He seems like a genuinely good dude. And what they're doing to him is total bullshit.

This reeks of josh trying to find a guy to lob under the bus like the weasel he is. Surprise surprise that the new QB is a long time patriot. We all know what happens next. McDaniels will turn this into patriots west. Probably makes a big plays for Jimmy G. Hell, maybe even Brady. Its delightful. Mosf NFL teams have FINALLY moved on from this and the raiders are going to triple down on it.

Got my popcorn ready

I would not be surprised if Raiders offer him to stay on an extension that is 25 % reduction in AAV.

I think this benching is just to avoid having to pay him in on an injury.

Raiders seem to have better in house morale than folks are supposing.

Carr seems a good fit for Waller, Adams and other receivers.

Carr isn't even in the building anymore. He's 100% gone.

This was probably the plan from the moment McDaniels was hired.

So would you put some money on it at some odds like 100-1?

He is being benched, because if he is injured such that he does not pass physical on March 1st from a football injury his 2023 salary is guaranteed.

He is out of the building because it is so nakedly a move to make him expendable.

That does not mean that Raiders find a better solution than keeping Carr, if he agrees to rework his deal for less AAV.

Are you asking me to BET you, because you so believe that this is somehow going to happen? It's all a ruse to get him back on a better contract?


lmao dude you are living in dreamland. Maybe re-direct your efforts here:


https://www.change.org/p/get-josh-mcdaniels-fired

QBs in this draft are not franchise type QBs. They are QBs that get GMs fired.

lol people say this every year

I call BS. You don't make this move if you're not tanking and have an outside shot at a playoff game. And you don't bench a guy you're trying to trade after a bad game. You're acting like McDaniels and Davis don't have a long history of being vindictive weasels.

They're lobbing Carr under the bus. It's McDaniels' way to write the off-season narrative that it's all Carrs fault. It's McDaniels' chance to plug his patriot guy in so they can transition into a full on patriot way redux and Davis is exactly the type to get suckered into it.

There is so little to gain by starting stidham. And a lot to lose by revealing these guys character to be what many forgot they were. It's two games. Let the game finish his time there with a shred of dignity. This isnt some strategic move. It's petty and small.

Yuk, yuk.

I posted in response to nobody that I would not be surprised if Carr is back on a deal that has less AAV.

Raiders record this year seems to have much more to do with Waller being injured and cutting all the defensive players who underperformed their draft position and completely blowing big leads. Seems like Raiders need to figure out how they want to play defense and what players they need to do that.

Raiders are not too far away from being a contender and keeping Carr may be the best option they come up with. They are definitely ready to explore options, but I say keeping Carr on a renegotiated deal is more possible than folks are saying.

They are benching him because if he sustains a football injury that does not heal by March 1st. They have no option but to pay him his full 2023.

I agree that it is a dick move and an admission that his contract was puffed up to sound better than it really was.

I agree that it could impact team morale after this year. I think if the #7 seed in the AFC gets to 9 wins, the players are not going to see this as a move that cost them a chance at the playoffs.

It would be a helluva thing if Davis and McDaniels think Brady signing there is what they are trying to set up. That seems like it has to end badly but I suppose time will tell.

Raiders doing a broncos speedrun

What a difference a couple months makes



AFCW BEST DIVISION IN HISTORY KC WON'T EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

ROFL LR

It's really messed up how the league forced the refs to force Mark Davis to force McDaniels to bench Carr.

Follow the money. It's so obvious. Consider gambling, they're right in the belly of the beast!

Soooo why the **** would Carr agree to rework his deal? That doesn't make a bit of sense considering he'd probably get more from a desperate team on the open market and by benching him the Raiders have made it abundantly clear he's no longer in their long term plans. At the worst he'd be traded on his current contract.

Edit: Oof, forgot about the no trade clause. Wow, he's got the Raiders by the balls here. He could force his way onto the open market and Raiders wouldn't get shit for him.

Not sure if it has been mentioned but when the raiders lose these 2 games they could end up with a top 10 pick and have a shot at a QB, The Tards and Bears likely wont take a QB

Right and I think that's exactly what will happen. Davis doesn't like Carr. Okay....bye?

Seriously somebody will pay handsomely for him. I like the idea of Atlanta for him.

Lucky for you the Raiders suck at drafting high

I just meant that might be the another motivation for the change

That's a good one.

And Rivera likes veterans. Carr would be the best QB he's had there.

Mahomes was skipped over by 9 other teams.

There CAN be a stud QB in next years draft. Kiimosabi is correct.

Imagine Adams realizing he went to the Raiders to play with Carr and now he is in hell.

LMAO.

They should have kept Bisaccia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rt2knsDboSA

Carr is at best an 12-16 QB. Cool

Coach of the century right? That’s why he isn’t a head coach

"He tried to make a Mahomes type throw" or something like that and failed.

Bottom line is the Chiefs fans are excited about the Raiders potentially drafting a 1st round QB. IF a Burrow type QB comes through then they will be ecstatic.

I think it be funny if Carr went to some schmuck team and wins a playoff game. Imagine all the suicide rate in penitentiaries go up.

The Patriot Way cult spinoff, has spun out Carr to save it's self

It is very rare for QBs to exceed their college play. Much, much more common for them to be worse at the NFL level.

FYP

The more I look at this, the more I think he's ends up in New Orleans.

The 3 most common words typed on Raider fan forums the last 9 years is “Carr just needs……”

It’s slightly possible Carr can make a deep post season run if he is carried by a team with an elite defense and running game……….maybe………

This is funny:
https://i.ibb.co/ZHBG88Z/Screenshot-...122800-730.png

Pat was really, really good in college as well.

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ROFL:clap:ROFL:clap:

Marvelous!

DC might be a lot more successful with TEN. There's only one actual QB in that division right now, and TEN probably has the best defense in it. And there's no reason to think they won't hold that distinction for some years to come, or at least be 2nd, depending on whether IND can hold onto most of their defense downrange. Obviously TEN has a dominant running game, and a decent OL.

They need a couple receiving weapons, but Derek would be able to lean on those other pieces and just be a game-manager, which is really his wheelhouse.

Of course, once in the playoffs he'll probably shrink some, but in the AFC-S he could actually get to the playoffs.

Coaching is so critical in the NFL with QB’s. It’s been proven time and time again.

Alex Smith before Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid then after

Geno Smith before this year

Russell Wilson with and without Pete Carroll

Hell look at what Sean McVay has done with Baker Mayfield compared to his time in Carolina?

Derek Carr has never had a good offensive coordinator or offensive coach.

Derek needs a scheme like Stefanski's. Run-centric, and passing a lot from PA/bootlegs to reduce how much he has to read the coverage.

Now my fellow Raiders fans want Minshew because he has moxie.

What a dumb fan base at times.

Her only accomplishment in life is letting Snake sleep with her.

Her opinion is irrelevant.

Chiefs aren't run by imbeciles.

The other three teams are.

Hoo boy! Minshew/McDaniels should give the Chiefs a real run for their money

Raiders fans say they want a winner.

Supports 8-15 Minshew.

You can't make this shit up.

Raiders defensive ranks since Derek Carr's first season in 2014
Rank
Points per Game 32nd
Yards per Play 30th
Sacks 32nd
Interceptions 32nd
Rush Touchdowns 31st
Pass Touchdowns 30th
4th Down Conv % 31st

Someone tweet that to Rose Stabler. That is why the Raiders haven't won. Your dead husband had top ten defenses in his career.

First Herbert, then Wilson. The Chiefs were saving Carr for last
POW!

Holy.

****ing.

Shit.

I didn’t realize it was that bad.

The defensive stuff doesn’t help when you score a combined 27 pts vs Jenny Pickett and baker mayfield

Carr to the Dolphins would really help his career. He isn’t a bad QB, he was on a really bad team.

I always liked Carr. He seems like a nice dude.

I have always said since 2017, Carr hasn't been a top 5 QB and not really top 10 (flashes at time), but he is good enough to make the playoffs consistently.

Of course, it is impossible when you are playing with the world's worst defense. It has never been reliable at all. It can't defend leads or make GW stops.

It left Mayfield and Pickett march down the field in crunch time.

Since 2003, it has been below average in scoring defense. The longest stretch since the merger in 1970.

He and Ruggs were tossing bombs everywhere before Ruggs went full idiot.

If he is smart, he forces a trade to a good spot. Or allows himself to be cut to pick his spot.

He owes nothing to the franchise after how this went down. Some Raiders fans say differently but it is a business. They protected their interests. He should protect his.

I think his mascara's sexy

It really turns me on

I definitely agree with this. I think Carr in Ten could be greater than Tannehill in Ten. He'd be a perfect fit for that system.

100%. McBugel charted a course that minimized the talent on the Raiders offense in the second half of games. Over and over again. Carr is a pretty stand up guy, but I really hope he airs the dirty laundry at some point.

One Raiders board in particular is mad about my posts.

Fan police are funny people. If you disagree with them, you aren't a real fan.

I don't believe in that take. Fandom is not a singular thing. Many Raiders fans were wishing for losses this year because the franchise needed a high draft pick. Well, the team needs a new coach. Two blowouts to end the year could make that happen. McBugel is a dead end.

He should. The franchise cut bait with him. He owes them nothing and they left owe nothing. Strictly business.

It is interesting. People wanted him gone and now they are complaining that he left the team and stopped following the social media accounts.

Folks are never happy. Even when they get what they want.

Brady is NOT going to the Raiders. He goes where he can win. That's not gonna be Vegas for the foreseeable future. He's in a division now where he can play like shit, lose a ton, and still win the division. He's not getting that kind of leeway in the AFCW. If he goes to the Raiders, he knows he's going to oblivion.

Not gonna happen.

What QB wouldn't be a fit to a strong running game and strong d?

All you have to do is not suck.

Carr doesn't suck, he's just not elite.

He would be a good pick-up for 10-15 teams and be an upgrade.

You think that offense would get the most out of Mahomes?

I'll answer that for you, no. For Carr though it fits his skill set perfectly.