Would rather clean a rent house toilet!

The Schrödinger Scoop... it's simultaneously 'look-at-me' insider information and complete bullshit until/if it gets called out.

? You think this is ugly? How so?

The problem with putting completely unverified stuff out there is people on this board read it, believe it, and absorb it. And it’ll be next off-season and we’ll be talking about CJ again and half of CP will be saying “And we offered this ****ing guy 30mm/yr and he turned it down” just because this was put out into the world based on what one person may have heard while drunk listening to TV at a bar.

What’s more likely: it was misheard and then very, very casually misreported by BRC or he heard it right and it just hasn’t been picked up by any internet content providers who are starved for these sorts of details?

Oh, and he says the source was legit but he has no idea who the reporter was? Okay.

You can take information drunkenly gleaned by BRC from a bar TV to the (Silicon Valley) Bank!!

No disagreements from me. Just the comparisons to the Tyreek situation need to stop as they are not even remotely close. KC can far more afford to lose Tyreek than Jones. While Jones is critical to the defense, both sides need to be reasonable regarding his contract.

There’s nothing the Chiefs can do, really — paying over $30 million doesn’t seem like a good idea, and at that price, he’s most likely untradable. At this point, the Chiefs probably should let him explore trade options to show him and his agent that he won’t find a team out there that will give up draft picks and give him north of $30 million. And if some team does, you trade him.

Orlando Brown and his agent thought the Chiefs were lowballing them and ****ed around and found out.

I just don’t get the risk / return here from Chris Jones point of view — unless the Chiefs offer is a lot less than the media intimating it is.

No one knows exactly what the offer was. We don't know if it was for $26 million or $30 million. I think all we know is that Beach made him an offer that he refused, right?

Which is SOP for salary negotiations anyway. Never take the first offer.

A legit ESPN reporter.

So legit that you don't even know there name?

Why haven't I seen this reported anywhere? I figure Twitter would blow up to this report.

You're obviously misremembering. Also I've never heard a word that was said on tv at a bar.

That Twitter post was obviously in jest. Look at the second picture.

To me, it sounds like he was playing a role in a movie and they’re trolling.

Wow! Ya think? Glad you cleared that up.

Carl would’ve had Rufus Dawes hunt down Chris Jones’ agent with a cattle prodder.

At least Veach is doing his best not to get dragged into the back and forth bullshit.

I don't believe him! No way he's not quitting the team!!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know who would’ve kept us up-to-speed on Chris Jones? Terez Paylor, that’s who. Terez was 1 of 1 when it came to establishing a high level of trust with the players so that they felt comfortable sharing information with him.</p>&mdash; RollinWithMahomes© (@MishLGee_xoxo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MishLGee_xoxo/status/1689036502095826944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don’t hold my liquor as well as I did. Getting older sucks. Having a 65% hearing loss probably didn’t help.

This seems like a dead end….

I bet BRC saw daggermouth too.

https://youtu.be/rWCgPeent8I

:eek: But :LOL:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chris Jones extension is getting a lot of speculation throw around it. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have no problem paying CJ. The issue is CJ wants security and the Chiefs are trying to protect themselves from dead cap when he inevitably gets older. The money is there, it’s the structure.</p>&mdash; Chris (@chiefs_outsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefs_outsider/status/1690438450107895809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This makes sense.

If the money is there then Chris Jones should take it.

Because it may not be there, at the amount he wants… from any team… next offseason.

Nate Taylor is like the off brand Terez Taylor and it sucks shit. Nate Taylor doesn't actually know a ****ing thing about what's going on, but Terez knew his shit and what was going on. He was such a huge loss to this community. Shit sucks.

I thought it was pretty well established that this dude knows absolutely nothing about what's going on lol. He's a satirist and I wouldn't take anything he says as info.

I like Nate Taylor's writing, but Terez was simply irreplaceable. Huge loss indeed. He was not only extremely well informed, but his enthusiasm was evident and infectious. We were lucky to have him.

Chris Jones needs a no-trade clause and call it good.

Maybe the Bears will give him that.

Sorry, been out of the country. Does this mean we haven't signed this POS yet no

Veach must be sleeping with Jones if he offered $30M and 4 years!

And Jones turning that down certainly doesn't make him look any better so I doubt that'd come out of his camp. After saying he isn't asking to be the no 1 paid DT settling for 1/2 a mil under is kind of a petty distinction.

I really don't want either side to start fighting this through social media. That's always an ugly ending...

nice! Belize by chance?

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It don’t matter!!!! Trade Jones!

Unfortunately no. Canada on a fishing trip.

Catch any Sabe mating?

Asking for a friend...

Not sure what that is?

Bigfoot...Canadian Native term for Bigfoot.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones watching the Chiefs defense get shredded: <a href="https://t.co/v4ef1xIj5F">pic.twitter.com/v4ef1xIj5F</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1690777258469003264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ah. Thought that was sasquach.

Yes, yes I did! Then when I showed them my fish they let me join in!

Are you a Chiefs fan or a Chris Jones fan, fat man??

Jones stans are the new Alexsexuals.

Cowherd believes that the Chiefs have explored trading Chris jones for Dwayne Haskins

Bert should hold out for Sean Taylor and Demaryius Thomas.

I see Shelton got himself a sack. CJ in danger of losing his job to a giant fat man?

Shelton made a damn nice play there

I hope there’s a clip of it on YT. Missed the whole game

He hustled his fat ass right into a really nice sack

It looked like he only got free because the lineman he was matched up with got clipped by the guy next to him. Still was nice hustle.

True, but yeah he looked like a man playing for his job... me likey

he was off his feet and grabbed the qbs shoe with a big old ham hock
didnt know he had that in him

Anyone know how much Chris Jones now owes in fines from his holdout?

All training camp days are 50,000 a piece

Can't remember how much a preseason game cost

need a fine tracker with the running total, it's a disgusting amount of money

Read an article the other day saying that it'd be around 2.4m in total if he misses the first pre season game. And IIRC it's about 1.1m per game?

Just rewatched the game (still a couple minutes left, but whatever) and Shelton's actually got a little quickness laterally. Winston tried to out-quick him to the outside, and somehow Shelton got his big ass to pop out enough to allow him to snag a shoelace on the dive. Kind of impressive really.

It's 1/18th of a game check. Mike Florio seems to think the game check penalty is optional though. If that's true, unless it gets ugly, I doubt the Chiefs fine him for the game.

So that'd come out to about as much as missing a day of camp? If the extra penalty is optional and isn't applied.

When (if....:eek:)he signs, the team will waive that in a heartbeat.

Not allowed to waive it anymore.

I heard that this hold out has already cost him $1M?

CP will pitch in if he shows up tomorrow.

He is under contract for thus season. He HAS to ball out or will guarantee a pittance contract offer from the Chiefs. Veach knows this, Jones doesn't have the ability to sit out a season and then still demand a top contract. He must play. Period.

Sorry, I meant 1/18th of his salary, which is 20 million I believe. Comes out to 1.1 million.

He has been a decent tackle but discipline shedding the blubber has kept him from being top-notch. He is always going to be a huge man but that extra weight will end his career. The training staff has made some headway hope he keeps to it.

With the missing camp fine of 50,000 a practice, he is right in the ballpark of 2 million lost so far.

It's hard for me to believe they are haggling over a couple of million a year for 3 or 4 years, and he has just handed back one of those years. They have to be further apart for this holdout to even make sense.

By August 17th (end of camp) fines will be $1.4M.

$50K per day after.

Anyone suggesting Jones has superior leverage is misguided.

Yeah, clearly the defense looked like a real top 10 unit without him.

Analysis after 2 series of preseason game 1 is a tough way to go through life, but you do you man.

May have been a little sarcastic on my part. But it's been a morning.

Understood. And to be clear, I'm in no way suggesting this defense will be as good without CJ.

I'm guessing he wants a true 4 year deal and not a 3 year deal with a walk away year added. This is most likely the hold up along with Guaranteed money...

Give him 5 years $125 Mil fully guaranteed

Then trade him and his shitty contract to the Bears.

at what point will the year toll on his contract? Like if he holds out past week 7 for example, we still have the final year of his contract right?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ain&#39;t nobody safe!</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1691122925779419136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris is clearly upset about the flooding in India.

that or he is watching baseball or something

I kind of think Chris gets a weird kick out of being cryptic on Twitter.

Hopefully, at least then he has something to show for all the money he is pissing away by sitting at home and pouting

Money is all relative guys. In the grand scheme of things, for him, to give up that to not have to go to camp.....Yeah.

Hell yeah, gotta break the bank to pay for people who are still under contract but sit out because they are "team players" ROFL

His teenager-like social media posts have gotten old, and I am apathetic to trading him now. The time to trade him would have been before the draft for help this year, but maybe it's time to explore what they can get.

It's funny, a year ago at this time, many believed he'd be a salary cap casualty unless he reworked his deal. He was a good player on a bad-average defense. Last year he blew up and had a great season that made his enormous cap hit worth keeping around.

Regarding his holdout: If he misses the rest of the preseason, he will potentially lose 6.1 million. That's a lot of money he won't make back.

LINK

I GUARANTEE you the Chiefs have made calls. They know what they can get for him.

What's with that profile photo of his.

I thought he was reporting to camp on Monday?

These cryptic tweets confuse the hell out of me.
But to be honest, all tweets confuse the hell out of me.