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alnorth 12-08-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7239865)
No, he's not going to be the superstar people thought he would be in Atlanta (that was always fools gold, I knew that even then). But there's no reason to believe that he can't be an average hitter with an above average glove.

I'm not mad about signing Frenchy at all. Signing Kendall, that was felony stupid. I dont care what the terms of the contract is, there was no reason to get Kendall. My only concern with Frenchy was that we'd give him a 4 year contract at 4-5 million per or something stupid like that. 1-2 years for a couple million or so? Fine. He's worth about 0.5-1 WAR. Not a good player, but a solid stopgap until we do get a good player, and maybe he'll miraculously improve to the point of getting us a draft pick.

DJ's left nut 12-08-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7239941)
False.

Better OPS and similar slug and isn't completely worthless against RHP. With experience, he'd also likely play a better RF, since he's a competent option in CF.

We got less and paid more. That's how our GM rolls when it comes to ML roster construction.

The words "with experience" should never be applied hopefully to a 29 year old fringe OFer with 3000 career minor league ABs and an OPS during that time of barely .800.

Maier is who he is and nothing more. 'Experience' will merely make him an older version of who he is.

Let him go.

KChiefs1 12-08-2010 04:59 PM

Francoeur is a good one year stop gap until the kids start coming up....better than some of the Moore signings.

siberian khatru 12-08-2010 05:08 PM

Ken Rosenthal
Source: One of #Marlins’ attempted 3-team trades would have landed them Greinke. Talks still alive, but called “lukewarm.” MORE #Royals #MLB

3-team trade was with #Rangers and #Royals. Not sure other pieces. PB Post said Nolasco, Nunez involved in diff 3-team deal.

Sure-Oz 12-08-2010 07:31 PM

3 way deal huh? Mike Stanton better be headed to KC in part of that...

alnorth 12-08-2010 07:49 PM

not a tweet this time, a more in-depth article was posted at foxsports.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/K...Greinke-120710

Five teams are pursuing Greinke, and another 3 teams are mildly interested. The Royals are reportedly being offered several "fair" offers, and they are moving very slowly, carefully looking at every player in every offer.

One issue of concern from many of us on this board and elsewhere was whether we were too specific in our demands and possibly passing over better talent just to fill holes (ie the Beltran trade). The royals apparently aren't wide-open, but they seem to have split the difference by saying they want a pitcher and "help at one or more of the four up-the-middle positions".

I'm fine with insisting that pitching is included, everyone has scads of pitchers and we probably could use a right-hander. I guess I'm OK with insisting on something in half the positions in the field, thats a reasonably broad selection of position players and we certainly have a ton of corner players already in all levels of our system.

DeezNutz 12-08-2010 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7240934)
not a tweet this time, a more in-depth article was posted at foxsports.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/K...Greinke-120710

Five teams are pursuing Greinke, and another 3 teams are mildly interested. The Royals are reportedly being offered several "fair" offers, and they are moving very slowly, carefully looking at every player in every offer.

One issue of concern from many of us on this board and elsewhere was whether we were too specific in our demands and possibly passing over better talent just to fill holes (ie the Beltran trade). The royals apparently aren't wide-open, but they seem to have split the difference by saying they want a pitcher and "help at one or more of the four up-the-middle positions".

I'm fine with insisting that pitching is included, everyone has scads of pitchers and we probably could use a right-hander. I guess I'm OK with insisting on something in half the positions in the field, thats a reasonably broad selection of position players and we certainly have a ton of corner players already in all levels of our system.

I'm cool with this because these are the hardest positions to fill. That said, if we can get a Stanton, I'd flip my lid if we didn't immediately snag that offer. I'd assume Dayton would, too.

siberian khatru 12-08-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7240934)
not a tweet this time, a more in-depth article was posted at foxsports.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/K...Greinke-120710

Five teams are pursuing Greinke, and another 3 teams are mildly interested. The Royals are reportedly being offered several "fair" offers, and they are moving very slowly, carefully looking at every player in every offer.

One issue of concern from many of us on this board and elsewhere was whether we were too specific in our demands and possibly passing over better talent just to fill holes (ie the Beltran trade). The royals apparently aren't wide-open, but they seem to have split the difference by saying they want a pitcher and "help at one or more of the four up-the-middle positions".

I'm fine with insisting that pitching is included, everyone has scads of pitchers and we probably could use a right-hander. I guess I'm OK with insisting on something in half the positions in the field, thats a reasonably broad selection of position players and we certainly have a ton of corner players already in all levels of our system.

Who are our corner OF prospects? (Myers doesn't count yet.)

Or does he? Or Hosmer? Hmmmm.

doomy3 12-08-2010 08:06 PM

Zack Greinke-S- Royals Dec. 8 - 8:20 pm et


The Phillies have spoken to the Royals about Zack Greinke.
So have 28 other teams, it seems. "We have explored and tried and talked about acquiring some significant players," Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. "We've tried to shoot for the moon on some things and laid some groundwork, but the possibility of them happening is kind of remote." We see Philadelphia as an extreme long-shot in the Greinke sweepstakes. On top of already boasting on of the league's best rotations, the Phillies would have to make a series of separate moves to even open up the payroll space for Greinke. The 27-year-old Greinke is signed through 2012 at $13.5 million annually.
Source: CSN Philadelphia
Related: Phillies

SAUTO 12-08-2010 08:06 PM

Giancarlo cruz michael stanton. What a ****ing name.
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SAUTO 12-08-2010 08:07 PM

What a rotation they would have. DAMN.
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7240991)
Zack Greinke-S- Royals Dec. 8 - 8:20 pm et


The Phillies have spoken to the Royals about Zack Greinke.
So have 28 other teams, it seems. "We have explored and tried and talked about acquiring some significant players," Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. "We've tried to shoot for the moon on some things and laid some groundwork, but the possibility of them happening is kind of remote." We see Philadelphia as an extreme long-shot in the Greinke sweepstakes. On top of already boasting on of the league's best rotations, the Phillies would have to make a series of separate moves to even open up the payroll space for Greinke. The 27-year-old Greinke is signed through 2012 at $13.5 million annually.
Source: CSN Philadelphia
Related: Phillies

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DeezNutz 12-08-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7240984)
Who are our corner OF prospects? (Myers doesn't count yet.)

Or does he? Or Hosmer? Hmmmm.

Hosmer is supposed to be a high-quality 1B, and I think it's a lock that Myers will be a RF.

alnorth 12-08-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 7240984)
Who are our corner OF prospects? (Myers doesn't count yet.)

Or does he? Or Hosmer? Hmmmm.

Myers is our right fielder of the future. Apparently he is an awful catcher, I looked up his stats and he has a hilarious number of passed balls so I can believe it without ever having seen him. However, he apparently has a cannon for an arm and a decent range so the scouts think he could be an adequate or possibly a plus right fielder. After him, we've got a couple very minor 1- and 2-star prospects who aren't worth naming until they prove themselves more, and Gordon presumably has a couple years left to start hitting. If all else fails, left field is not a tough position to fill AT ALL, so it makes sense to focus up the middle.

We badly need a catcher and we badly need a good center fielder. Especially in our ballpark, ever since we moved the fences back Kauffman Stadium has been playing as a very strong pitcher's park. Home runs are hard as hell to hit there (our park effect for home runs is at about the 25-30th percentile) but we have so much outfield space that we have a lot of doubles (somewhere in the top third), and oddly enough, Kauffman is the most extreme triples park in all of baseball, and its not even close. I dont know if the very most triples are hit there or not, but when you do the math and adjust for all the other variables, then all else being equal, if team A and team B play each other 100 times in every park, they are more likely to hit a triple at the K than anywhere else.

After those two needs, we could use a second baseman and/or shortstop. If we dont aquire one, Colon projects out as an average or maybe slightly below-average defensive shortstop who will hopefully hit a ton. He'd be better at second but we dont have an alternative yet. Giavotella has recently emerged as a possible second baseman of the future, but we shouldn't snub a trade for a stud middle infielder.

alnorth 12-08-2010 08:41 PM

Multiple sources confirmed that we rejected an offer from the Marlins today. They might try again with another offer.

Sure-Oz 12-08-2010 08:46 PM

Stanton has to be part of that offer, no way we make a deal with Florida unless he is in it.


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