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duncan_idaho 04-12-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 9580633)
If Paulino gets an uptick in velocity he would be our 2nd best starter for sure, maybe even pushing Shields some.

Velo has never been an issue for him. Even if he doesn't get an uptick, if he just recovers what he had, he's in good shape.

If you look at his career velocity averages, Paulino has sat at 95.2 over the course of his career (whether as a starter or reliever). Biggest variance was a few years back, when it was 95.4.

The guy throws flat GAS. Even his two-seam fastball hums.

Looking at his stats, it appears he should work off of his slider, two-seamer and changeup much more, and reduce use of his 4-seam fastball, which has been flat and hittable.

DJ's left nut 04-12-2013 01:16 PM

Yeah - since when did Paulino need to work on his velocity?

When he was getting shuffled in and out of the rotation in Houston, his issue was always his command. The kid threw hard; he just had no idea where it was going. There was also some concern about his stamina in those days, but it looks like he's turned a corner there.

Teach Paulino some control and he's a potential #3 starter on a legitimate contender. Even last year, when he was pitching well, he wasn't commanding well and that kind of guy can get blown apart at any given time. That's not someone you really want starting a playoff game for you if you can avoid it.

alnorth 04-12-2013 01:37 PM

not sure if repost, but the White Sox have lost Gordon Beckham for 6 weeks.

Great Expectations 04-12-2013 01:54 PM

If his velocity goes up 1-2% he goes from being a good number 3 guy like has been for us to high end 2/low end 1.

Ceej 04-12-2013 02:23 PM

Some I am planning on heading to the game Sunday afternoon.

Hells yeah, mofuggas.

DJ's left nut 04-12-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 9580721)
If his velocity goes up 1-2% he goes from being a good number 3 guy like has been for us to high end 2/low end 1.

If his velocity goes up 1-2% he's still a guy that throws hard and has mediocre control. In other words, he's still a 4th starter.

Paulino isn't a 'good #3 guy' until he can throw strikes for a full season or in the post-season.

And I'm not sure how you can expect a guy that already throws 95 to just add velocity in his late 20s.

silver5liter 04-12-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9580276)
Luckily, we have a new man who won't let that **** fly.

http://blog.masslive.com/redsoxmonst...elds-fight.jpg

sadly he completely whiffed on that punch lol

WhawhaWhat 04-12-2013 02:52 PM

Joel Goldberg ‏@goldbergkc
#Royals lineup vs LHP Happ: Gordon 7 Escobar 6 Butler DH Perez 2 Moose 5 Frenchy 9 Cain 8 Tejada 3 Johnson 4 Mendoza 1

Hosmer benched for Miguel Tejada.

LoneWolf 04-12-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9580859)
Joel Goldberg ‏@goldbergkc
#Royals lineup vs LHP Happ: Gordon 7 Escobar 6 Butler DH Perez 2 Moose Frenchy 9 Cain 8 Tejada 3 Johnson 4 Mendoza 1

Hosmer benched for Miguel Tejada.

Actually isn't it Getz benched for Tejada and Hosmer for Johnson?

WhawhaWhat 04-12-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9580867)
Actually isn't it Getz benched for Tejada and Hosmer for Johnson?

Tejada is playing first, Johnson is playing second.

LoneWolf 04-12-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9580871)
Tejada is playing first, Johnson is playing second.

Sorry, didn't see that.

WhawhaWhat 04-12-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9580898)
Sorry, didn't see that.

But did you do it on purpose?

LoneWolf 04-12-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9580908)
But did you do it on purpose?

Yes, you should charge my post and cause a forum clearing brawl.

duncan_idaho 04-12-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9580809)
If his velocity goes up 1-2% he's still a guy that throws hard and has mediocre control. In other words, he's still a 4th starter.

Paulino isn't a 'good #3 guy' until he can throw strikes for a full season or in the post-season.

And I'm not sure how you can expect a guy that already throws 95 to just add velocity in his late 20s.

Might be looking for a post-TJ velocity bump, which is not unheard of.

Paulino has a pretty standard walk rate of around 11.5 percent, whether as a Royal or prior to coming to KC. That's about 25 percent higher than league average (8.5-9.0 percent)

He also strikes out better than league average, averaging about 2 more K/9 than average (about 29 percent higher than the league average 6.5).

You're right. If he could cut a walk a game while retaining that high K rate, Paulino is a guy who suddenly becomes a good No. 2/excellent No. 3 type pitcher. Would require Eiland to work some magic with him, though.

sedated 04-12-2013 03:44 PM

I almost forgot about this – did anyone hear Frank White on 810 yesterday (around 5pm)?

Early in the interview, he says Gordon needs to be moved away from batting leadoff.

Later, answering a question that had nothing to do with the lineup, he says:
- Move Gordon down to the 4 spot
- Switch Escobar and Getz (Escobar to 8, Getz to 2)
- “Let Butler, Gordon, and Frenchy drive the lineup”

Frank’s priorities seem to be off – his lineup choice is based on nothing but years of experience.


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