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Mecca 08-29-2023 03:51 PM
Chris Jones has been with the team for a long time......I doubt they thought he'd just wake up one day and go full scorched earth **** everything but my money to the point that he'll quit attitude.

VAChief 08-29-2023 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17078924)
Trade him to the Cardinals for a 5x5 piece of field turf from their stadium.
They are dumping people not taking them on.

O.city 08-29-2023 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17078923)
Stop with this. It’s not like the stance he’s taking is one that’s common in these situations. You can’t operate an organization assuming players you’re negotiating with are willing to go scorched earth and light substantial amounts of money - even for them - on fire. Or else you’re going to be pulling the ripcord early and often and that’s hardly optimal either.

I think anyone blaming the front office for not seeing this coming and getting ahead of it is an idiot.
There's not an optimal win here. Give the guy the number you want in March. If he isn't interested, let him seek someone who will give him what he wants then move on.

GloucesterChief 08-29-2023 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17078924)
Trade him to the Cardinals for a 5x5 piece of field turf from their stadium.
Trade him to the Cards for the lower of their first round picks and a 3rd.

Monticore 08-29-2023 03:52 PM
If I’m his teammate I would be ****ing pissed .

Balto 08-29-2023 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17078914)
I shouldn't have posted that even joking...
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O.city 08-29-2023 03:53 PM
That's actually pretty funny.

DJ's left nut 08-29-2023 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17078867)
Pretty good chance they thought Jeffrey Simmons, Quinnen Williams territory was what they were looking at because of Jones age 3rd contract etc.

Him coming to them with completely unexpected demands when he knew he had the time at the worst possible time was on purpose. You can't say "well the Chiefs shoulda done this"
I still kinda think Katz expected the market for the DTs to jump with Simmons, Williams and Lawrence all signing this off-season.

And it kinda did, but it didn't get close to Donald.

The failure of the market to develop threw them a curveball they weren't ready for.

So I do think we can actually consider the possibility of mere incompetence on Katz's part rather than bad-faith.

Hanlon's Razor is useful again: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity..."

There's a good chance that Katz just royally ****ed up his read on the DT market, put himself in a bind and is now doubling down on stupid.

KCUnited 08-29-2023 03:54 PM
Its clear that we found which fat bitch drove these results

https://nflpa.com/kansas-city-chiefs-report-card

O.city 08-29-2023 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17078944)
I still kinda think Katz expected the market for the DTs to jump with Simmons, Williams and Lawrence all signing this off-season.

And it kinda did, but it didn't get close to Donald.

The failure of the market to develop threw them a curveball they weren't ready for.

So I do think we can actually consider the possibility of mere incompetence on Katz's part rather than bad-faith.

Hanlon's Razor is useful again: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity..."

There's a good chance that Katz just royally ****ed up his read on the DT market, put himself in a bind and is now doubling down on stupid.
I mean, the market is the market.

I don't now how he would expect to get to 30 even next year right?

TwistedChief 08-29-2023 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17078925)
If his agent and him did what we're saying here though, the team woulda leaked that out.
Do the Chiefs seem like the kind of team that would be desperate in leaking details to the press so that fans would be on the organization’s side? We’re not the Cowboys with Jerry Jones and I don’t think the team is losing the PR battle here.

Mecca 08-29-2023 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17078944)
I still kinda think Katz expected the market for the DTs to jump with Simmons, Williams and Lawrence all signing this off-season.

And it kinda did, but it didn't get close to Donald.

The failure of the market to develop threw them a curveball they weren't ready for.

So I do think we can actually consider the possibility of mere incompetence on Katz's part rather than bad-faith.

Hanlon's Razor is useful again: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity..."

There's a good chance that Katz just royally ****ed up his read on the DT market, put himself in a bind and is now doubling down on stupid.
Well **** the market didn't increase but we're still gonna go for it because well..shit I told Chris this is what he should get.

DJ's left nut 08-29-2023 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17078911)
Well.....they get paid to not get in these positions right?
Jones' behavior is as irrational and unexpected as anything we've seen since Andrew Luck retired.

At a point, there's just not a shitload you can do apart from trading every damn guy you have with only a year on his contract.

I mean hell, what if PM retires? Should we trade him now just to be safe?

No - these guys don't get paid to predict irrational.

This is on Jones and Katz.

O.city 08-29-2023 03:57 PM
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Marcellus 08-29-2023 03:57 PM
When he started all the nonsense tweeting after Clark got cut, I thought this seems really odd. Turns out he really was pissed apparently.


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