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Bugeater 06-30-2011 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7724425)
This might be the saddest thread on CP. If a bunch of super rich ****'s all chipped in, they could use Solar, Wing, Wave and Geothermal technologies to built a mass transit system for the world that would never require gasoline or Big Oil for us, our children and their children, and their children's children.

It would take trillions of dollars, millions of laborers and 10-20 years of work, but we could save ourselves from this. And future generations would look back and thank us, as opposed to looking back and cursing us.

Think about how many countries spent 5-10 years building building nukes and missiles during the Cold War, only to all disarm them. They could have worked towards building a better world for their kids i.e. us. Instead, we're all struggling to make ends meet, work jobs we hate to pay for gas we shouldn't need, so we can go back to work the next day. Endless suffering, when we could have endless prosperity.

Dude are you new to America? We ****ing hate mass transit here.

Discuss Thrower 06-30-2011 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7724434)
Dude are you new to America? We ****ing hate mass transit here.

A lot of this. Mass transit is nice when the population density is, oh, say 1000 people a square mile. But do you really want to live literally on top and below somebody else?

BigMeatballDave 06-30-2011 09:47 PM

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Backwards Masking 06-30-2011 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Town Fan 1988 (Post 7724439)
A lot of this. Mass transit is nice when the population density is, oh, say 1000 people a square mile. But do you really want to live literally on top and below somebody else?

I was talking about transportation, not living conditions.

And I live in Kasnas, where most of it is FAR less than a 1000 people a square mile. :p

Discuss Thrower 06-30-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7724452)
I was talking about transportation, not living conditions.

And I live in Kasnas, where most of it is FAR less than a 1000 people a square mile. :p

That's the problem though. Mass transport is only viable if everyone lives in a metropolitan area. So it's either keep using oil because there's nothing else that is as efficient as it, or everyone lives in a megacity ala Tokyo.

Backwards Masking 06-30-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7724434)
Dude are you new to America? We ****ing hate mass transit here.

No, I know. But I personally hate working hundreds of hours saying "Yes Sir, No Ma'am, yes I'll work Saturday, no I wasn't doing something outsidethe best interest of the company" and spending thousands of dollars on a machine I wouldn't need if the superrich and powerful gave a crap about me.

Backwards Masking 06-30-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Town Fan 1988 (Post 7724516)
That's the problem though. Mass transport is only viable if everyone lives in a metropolitan area. So it's either keep using oil because there's nothing else that is as efficient as it, or everyone lives in a megacity ala Tokyo.

Kansas City is a metropolitan area, we don't have mass transit. Plus there are LOTS of of non oil alternatives like Solar, Wind, Wave (not in Kansas) and Geothermal that if harnessed correctly, could repower themselves and actually work in smaller venues if enough resouces (billions) were spent.

I know it's not gonna happen here, or most anywhere else anytime soon. And I also know the time, money and manpower would be extraordinary in order to do it, but it CAN be done. Mankind is smart, look what we've done. What was considered impossible 100 years ago is now a part of everyday life - cell phone signals in Siberia, satellites, brain surgery, the internet.

I refuse to believe the human race isn't smart enough to learn how to live in a world without oil.

Bugeater 06-30-2011 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7724517)
No, I know. But I personally hate working hundreds of hours saying "Yes Sir, No Ma'am, yes I'll work Saturday, no I wasn't doing something outsidethe best interest of the company" and spending thousands of dollars on a machine I wouldn't need if the superrich and powerful gave a crap about me.

Pfffttt...you can run your super mega mass transit system right by my front door and I'll still use my personal vehicles. The freedom they give me is worth every penny that they cost me.

Backwards Masking 06-30-2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 7724536)
Pfffttt...you can run your super mega mass transit system right by my front door and I'll still use my personal vehicles. The freedom they give me is worth every penny that they cost me.

You want to spent x amount of labor hours earning to money to finance your personal vehicles for the rest of your life, great. It's certainly your right to do that and I'm not going to argue that or say you're a bad person for exercising your freedoms.

But keep in mind in taking that stance you forfeit your right to complain about the rising price of gas you're in effect contributing to. And if there comes a day when financing your personal vehicles becomes unaffordable or have to choose between your house/relationships/children OR your cars, you have no one to blame but yourself. And the oil/gas prices aren't ever going down permanantly.

Bugeater 06-30-2011 10:48 PM

Oh **** that shit, I'm still going to complain.

007 07-01-2011 12:14 AM

talk about over the top. JFC

penguinz 07-01-2011 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7724425)
This might be the saddest thread on CP. If a bunch of super rich ****'s all chipped in, they could use Solar, Wing, Wave and Geothermal technologies to built a mass transit system for the world that would never require gasoline or Big Oil for us, our children and their children, and their children's children.

It would take trillions of dollars, millions of laborers and 10-20 years of work, but we could save ourselves from this. And future generations would look back and thank us, as opposed to looking back and cursing us.

Think about how many countries spent 5-10 years building building nukes and missiles during the Cold War, only to all disarm them. They could have worked towards building a better world for their kids i.e. us. Instead, we're all struggling to make ends meet, work jobs we hate to pay for gas we shouldn't need, so we can go back to work the next day. Endless suffering, when we could have endless prosperity.

Quit bitching and go back to work.

penguinz 07-01-2011 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 7724549)
You want to spent x amount of labor hours earning to money to finance your personal vehicles for the rest of your life, great. It's certainly your right to do that and I'm not going to argue that or say you're a bad person for exercising your freedoms.

But keep in mind in taking that stance you forfeit your right to complain about the rising price of gas you're in effect contributing to. And if there comes a day when financing your personal vehicles becomes unaffordable or have to choose between your house/relationships/children OR your cars, you have no one to blame but yourself. And the oil/gas prices aren't ever going down permanantly.

But you want others who have worked hard for their money to spend it all on something for you so that you do not have to work as hard anymore?

You could always just move somewhere like Venezuela where the government subsidizes the cost of oil and gas is less than $0.25 a gallon.

Backwards Masking 07-01-2011 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 7724714)
Quit bitching and go back to work.

about to. when you use this line on your grandchildren i'm sure you'll be doing it out of love and what's in their best interest, instead of the line of thinking "i had to suffer working to pay for my vehicles - so should they!"

Backwards Masking 07-01-2011 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 7724719)
1. But you want others who have worked hard for their money to spend it all on something for you so that you do not have to work as hard anymore?

2. You could always just move somewhere like Venezuela where the government subsidizes the cost of oil and gas is less than $0.25 a gallon.

1. you're damn right! for both me and the precious children you older timers claim to care so much about.

2. i could, but it'd cost me a lot less (and future generations) once we completed one here.


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