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ChiefsCountry 03-03-2013 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9461350)
I disagree with this statement.

While Alex Smith is most certainly not "Elite" or a "Franchise QB", he's better than average. He's far better than Cassel and he's better than Kyle Orton.

Orton won games for the Chiefs without Berry, Moeaki and Charles, with the support of the worst coaching staff in all of football.

Alex Smith won't likely win a Super Bowl for the Chiefs, but unless he falls off a cliff on the way to KC, he's markedly better than Cassel.
If Marty was our coach, then Alex Smith would be a very acceptable upgrade. If you play Martyball, he can play effective enough to win games. But we are talking about an Andy Reid throw it around the field offense. He failed in SF when he had to play like that.

DaneMcCloud 03-03-2013 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9461374)
Most of those guys were drafted before Dorsey was even scout.
No, they were not.

Dorsey was a scout beginning in 1991. He became Director of College Scouting in 1997.

Brunnel was drafted in 1993, Aaron Brooks in 1999, Matt Flynn in 2008 and so on.

Now, how much say that Dorsey had in those decisions is definitely open for discussion.

DaneMcCloud 03-03-2013 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9461383)
OK. Like I said I was just going off of qb's green bay moved and just off the top of my head.
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Milkman was wrong.

None of those guys were drafted before Dorsey was a scout.

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9461373)
Is that why you advocated for Smith in 2008?
At that point, we didn't know that Smith would become a totally worthless bum.

DaneMcCloud 03-03-2013 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9461386)
If Marty was our coach, then Alex Smith would be a very acceptable upgrade. If you play Martyball, he can play effective enough to win games. But we are talking about an Andy Reid throw it around the field offense. He failed in SF when he had to play like that.
It'll be interesting to see how well he plays under Reid, Pederson, etc. but he's definitely an upgrade over Matt Cassel.

SAUTO 03-03-2013 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9461374)
Most of those guys were drafted before Dorsey was even scout.
Actually you are wrong. About every one of them.

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Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9461397)
It'll be interesting to see how well he plays under Reid, Pederson, etc. but he's definitely an upgrade over Matt Cassel.
This remains to be seen. I'd love to see Alex Smith throw 27 TDs. Really. That'd be a hoot!

DaneMcCloud 03-03-2013 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9461395)
At that point, we didn't know that Smith would become a totally worthless bum.
LMAO

Right.

He'd only been in the league as a starter for four years in 2008 and enjoyed none of the success he's had the past two seasons.

LMAO

You're ****ing funny.

Hammock Parties 03-03-2013 07:31 PM
I advocated for Smith based on the fact we needed a replacement for Brodie Croyle.

That ship has sailed.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-03-2013 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PA Chiefs (Post 9461351)
He has to be Cassel could only win 11 games with one of the most talented teams of all time when Randy Moss was putting up numbers just about never done before he caught what 23 tds the year before. Cassel<Smith by a good amount Smith isn't a pro-bowler but he is a lot better than Cassel.
Oh **** a Randy Moss connection too. It's like the Lincoln and Kennedy shootings. It's just 4 years apart instead of around a 100.

SAUTO 03-03-2013 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9461394)
Milkman was wrong.

None of those guys were drafted before Dorsey was a scout.
lol. I looked it up too.

Thanks! :-)
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ChiefsCountry 03-03-2013 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9461397)
but he's definitely an upgrade over Matt Cassel.
That's not saying much.

Direckshun 03-03-2013 07:33 PM
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milkman 03-03-2013 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9461394)
Milkman was wrong.

None of those guys were drafted before Dorsey was a scout.
Yes, I was wrong.
My memory failed me on this one.

Ming the Merciless 03-03-2013 07:38 PM
2005 - played 9 games
2006 - played full season 58% complete 16 TD
2007 - missed 9 games
2008 - missed 16 games
2009- missed 5 games
2010- missed 5 games
2011- played full season 61% complete 17 TD
2012 benched/missed 6 games


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