Originally Posted by caligula (Post 9616769)

and in spite of that it has still been - amazingly - 'too risky' every single year to draft a QB...still 'too risky' this year

we are a clown franchise...just the worst of the worst

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9616819)

Its not risky, just stupid.

Originally Posted by caligula (Post 9616769)

and in spite of that it has still been - amazingly - 'too risky' every single year to draft a QB...still 'too risky' this year

we are a clown franchise...just the worst of the worst

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9616816)

Do you see what Joeckel has done to me? He's forced me to root for this shitty ****ing Albert trade in the hopes that we can still corral together enough draft ammo to move up and take Geno or Barkley. And that's if either of them drop like is expected at this point.

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9616656)

I don't think you understand how many people actually get upset with a Chiefs loss. People, in the past, have talked about how they throw and break things when the Chiefs do poorly.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9616865)

I cant hold Dorsey/Reid accountable for the sins of Peterson/Piioli.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9616905)

You're right...but can't we grade them on their mistakes?

Glenn Dorsey left in free agency to play the 1 gap nose for the 49ers.

No other team was willing to give up 2 picks for Alex Smith, but we gave up 2 second rounders for him.

We are trading a solid left tackle for peanuts so that we can draft a replacement left tackle with the first pick in the draft.

Signing Sean Smith and Dunte Robinson to deals that average almost 12 million per year when they both get burnt a lot.

I'm honestly not trying to trash these guys...I have hope they are gonna do the right things that it takes to win big games...but I see some things so far that I personally disagree with.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9616905)

You're right...but can't we grade them on their mistakes?

Glenn Dorsey left in free agency to play the 1 gap nose for the 49ers.

No other team was willing to give up 2 picks for Alex Smith, but we gave up 2 second rounders for him.

We are trading a solid left tackle for peanuts so that we can draft a replacement left tackle with the first pick in the draft.

Signing Sean Smith and Dunte Robinson to deals that average almost 12 million per year when they both get burnt a lot.

I'm honestly not trying to trash these guys...I have hope they are gonna do the right things that it takes to win big games...but I see some things so far that I personally disagree with.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9616925)

point of view.

Dorsey is a bust who didn't fit our system - we upgraded the run d with devito.

re: smith they got the guy they wanted in a weak year for QBs both in FA and the draft.

They upgraded LT and saved money to boot, by taking the best player in the draft - flipping a redundant player to recoup a pick given away for smith (presumably)

Smith and Robinson are upgrades over Arenas et al...


look I don't agree with all these moves....BUT lets maybe get to TC or, sigh, actual football before jumping off the bridge.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9616925)

point of view.

Dorsey is a bust who didn't fit our system - we upgraded the run d with devito.

re: smith they got the guy they wanted in a weak year for QBs both in FA and the draft.

They upgraded LT and saved money to boot, by taking the best player in the draft - flipping a redundant player to recoup a pick given away for smith (presumably)

Smith and Robinson are upgrades over Arenas et al...


look I don't agree with all these moves....BUT lets maybe get to TC or, sigh, actual football before jumping off the bridge.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9616935)

^ This. These guys were great hires until they didn't do what CP wanted them to do and now before even one game has been played some are already on board with thinking these guys were mistakes who don't know what they are doing.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9616925)

point of view.

Dorsey is a bust who didn't fit our system - we upgraded the run d with devito.

re: smith they got the guy they wanted in a weak year for QBs both in FA and the draft.

They upgraded LT and saved money to boot, by taking the best player in the draft - flipping a redundant player to recoup a pick given away for smith (presumably)

Smith and Robinson are upgrades over Arenas et al...


look I don't agree with all these moves....BUT lets maybe get to TC or, sigh, actual football before jumping off the bridge.

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 9616964)

I agree with all of this.

Some assholes on this board complain about EVERYTHING...

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9616746)

Albert was a good pick.

Again, that's one of those situations where we're taking "good" picks. Derrick Johnson has been a good pick for this franchise. Very valuable. He's exactly what you want when it comes to drafting players in the first round.

Albert is the same. It's a shame he priced himself out of a contract extension. Either way, he learned, grew, and became a pretty good player in his time with the Chiefs.

In both cases, we could have had QBs that we "didn't need" at the time. We had Green and needed defense, thus the Johnson pick. We didn't have a QB in 2008, but getting a talented offensive linemen like Albert was important to grab before we took chances on projects like Joe Flacco.

And I have a feeling we're about to repeat the same mistake with Joeckel.