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DON'T fire Ned Yost (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=276552)

**** you. What the **** kind of shitty thread is this?

I feel like I'm Direckshun right now.

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10008234)

I'm not saying Yost is a tactical genius. He's obviously not. But like I said, you've GOT to give him credit for the way this team has pulled together and put on a playoff run.

They could have easily quit after they went 4-19 during that horrendous stretch in May, and they could have easily quit after they lost 7 in a row in August. They didn't.

If they fired Ned Yost, who are you going to replace him with who would be better?

If we have a chance to pull Charlie Manuel, you pull the trigger without ever looking back.

Ned's decisions unquestionably led us to a loss in two or perhaps three critical games down the stretch. He's a small ball overmanager who has no business overseeing a contender.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10008265)

Every manager in baseball except perhaps Jim Leyland makes that same sub.

Agreed.

Leyland looked like an idiot when he didn't.

Maverick makes better threads than this.

You don't even need to be start to make that decision. Billy running the bases in that situation is a double play liability. That's the reason he was walked. He wasn't walked because they fear him, but because he's slow and would be an easy DP candidate almost regardless of where the ball is hit.

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10008282)

Maverick makes better threads than this.

ROFL LMAO

Trivers thinks this thread sucks.

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10008277)

OK, I'll give you Charlie Manuel.

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10008234)

I give Ned no credit whatsoever for the success of this team. He has been directly responsible for a multitude of losses which have put this team in a much tighter spot than they really should be. Examples:

A) Letting Wade Davies stay in the starting rotation until August.
B) Repeatedly batting Chris Getz leadoff despite his .250 OBP or whatever.
C) Atrocious mismanagement of the bullpen all year long - most importantly, not letting Louis Coleman pitch in high-pressure situations, and instead letting proven losers like Crow, Herrera, and Davies pitch in those situations.
D) Repeatedly leaving starters in too long. For example, blowing the game against Detroit last Sunday by trotting out Guthrie for the 8th inning when he was already over 100 pitches and had given up 12 hits.
E) Choking away the huge game against Cleveland last Tuesday - wasting Ventura's great start. Coleman, in a rare appearance in a pressure situation, gets a bases-loaded strikeout to get out of a jam. Yost promptly pulls him the next inning, allowing the usual suspects (Herrera and Davies) to blow the lead.
F) Having Carlos Pena pinch hit for Jarrod Dyson in a huge situation with the season on the line.
G) Calls sacrifice bunts like it's 1920.

I could go on and on. This is just off the top of my head.

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 10008295)

You forgot about the game where Shields was pitching a 2-hit shutout and leading 1-0 after 8 innings. Yost put Holland in and Holland promptly blew the save.

I can't really argue with any of the points you raised. Ned's blunders can be infuriating.

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10008300)

LOL. Then why did you start this thread?

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10008197)

Ned made a great decision in the bottom of the 10th inning today. If Ned hadn't had Getz pinch run for Billy, the inning would have been over before Justin Maxwell ever came to the plate.

Everybody hates Ned and wants him to be fired. I don't. He sometimes makes game-time decisions that are easy to second-guess, but you've got to give him credit: the Royals have just about the best clubhouse atmosphere and team camraderie of any team I've ever seen. Ned deserves a hell of a lot of credit for that.

Not only do I think Ned won't be fired, I'm convinced he shouldn't be fired.

Stop it.

I will say I don't think that PR substitution was a gimme. Getz' run didn't matter, and if the Royals fail to score you've lost your cleanup hitter the rest of the game over a meaningless substitution. Ned would've probably been criticized for that.