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vailpass 07-19-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8753796)
The Kindle Fire is the 6th generation of Kindle now. And each generation has seen it get more complicated and more "iPad like". With the Kindle Fire, they even dropped their e-ink display, which was what made Kindle a better e-reader in the first place. They did all this to allow for more tablet capabilities.

And while the Kindle Fire has sold better than previous models, it still hasn't been as successful as Amazon hoped. To address that, they're increasing the next gen Kindle's capabilities, in hopes of making it more of an iPad competitor. They're not going to simplify it to keep it cheap, they're going the opposite direction. iPad has shown that price isn't the determining factor in choosing a tablet for the overwhelming majority.

Thanks, I see where you are coming from. I don't share your view that everyone wants their tablet to be an ipad but I understand your reasoning.

Fish 07-19-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8753801)
Yup. Honestly, my main complaint about the Fire is that the software's pretty clunky. In terms of hardware, it does just fine. That said, anyone who is looking for a real 7" Android tab these days shouldn't even consider anything other than the Nexus 7.

That's my favorite Android offering at the moment. The Nexus 10 is gonna be even better too. That should be one badass little tablet.

And you can run XBMC on Android tablets now too. Which makes them infinitely better as a media consumption device. It's still in development, but should be final soon, and will run without rooting. That jumps Android tablets up to iPad capable level by itself. At least least for what I use a tablet for..

XBMC for Android

Mr. Laz 07-19-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8753801)
Yup. Honestly, my main complaint about the Fire is that the software's pretty clunky. In terms of hardware, it does just fine. That said, anyone who is looking for a real 7" Android tab these days shouldn't even consider anything other than the Nexus 7.

checked out the Transformer Infinity yet?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/25/a...-tf700-review/

Bewbies 07-19-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8753755)
Know how I know not to listen to anything you ever say about this subject?

Sure I do. Because I said the iPhone I own is better than the kindle fire I own or what I do based on my personal experience, I see why you'd see my massive bias.

I do like how you can find a comma on the iPhone keyboard, but my fire keyboard doesn't have one. That's a terrible bias. And despite that I love my fire...

Bewbies 07-19-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8753801)
Yup. Honestly, my main complaint about the Fire is that the software's pretty clunky. In terms of hardware, it does just fine. That said, anyone who is looking for a real 7" Android tab these days shouldn't even consider anything other than the Nexus 7.

I would agree on the software. Clunky is a good word.

DaFace 07-19-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8753869)
checked out the Transformer Infinity yet?

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/25/a...-tf700-review/

I heard about it back when they announced it. Looks like a decent update for the Prime, but I'll live.

vailpass 07-20-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8753880)
Sure I do. Because I said the iPhone I own is better than the kindle fire I own or what I do based on my personal experience, I see why you'd see my massive bias.

I do like how you can find a comma on the iPhone keyboard, but my fire keyboard doesn't have one. That's a terrible bias. And despite that I love my fire...

don't be offended by anything I say; it isn't meant as an attack. I'm mildly reeruned, if that helps you put me in perspective.

Mr. Laz 07-20-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8755582)
don't be offended by anything I say; it isn't meant as an attack. I'm mildly reeruned, if that helps you put me in perspective.

at least you're honest


ROFL

jiveturkey 07-20-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8753801)
Yup. Honestly, my main complaint about the Fire is that the software's pretty clunky. In terms of hardware, it does just fine. That said, anyone who is looking for a real 7" Android tab these days shouldn't even consider anything other than the Nexus 7.

No doubt. If I was buying one today that's the tablet I would buy.

vailpass 07-20-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 8755896)
No doubt. If I was buying one today that's the tablet I would buy.

Do you mind sharing why? What does the Nexus 7 have over the new Kindle Fire?

ReynardMuldrake 07-20-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8753417)
I have a Fire. I love it for reading and despise it for pretty much everything else. The Android system it's on is wonky and the battery life sucks. The size is great, and consuming Amazon content on it is good too.

Having to restart it to watch Netflix, or the level of something like burn in on the screen when I switch screens isn't. Android sucks. Whenever I open the web it restores a tab to a site I closed out of 3 months ago. Always.

Then my company switched from the Inspire4G to the iPhone. Now all I do on the kindle is read, my iPhone is better for everything else. Including watching movies on the way smaller screen.

I would get an iPad over the Fire for everything I'd do on it except read. For that, the size and backlit screen (while in bed) make the Fire perfect for me.

When I bought my Kindle I specifically picked the $99 black and white version. I want a device that just reads books, nothing more. For that I think it's great. Much lighter than the Fire and the battery lasts for weeks.

If I want to surf the web, I'll use my laptop, thank you very much.

DaFace 07-20-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8755953)
Do you mind sharing why? What does the Nexus 7 have over the new Kindle Fire?

Pretty much everything except Amazon integration. I think Google was getting fed up with the other manufacturers taking so long to get good products out there affordably and decided to just do it themselves. The key points:
  • Much better screen resolution
  • Faster hardware
  • Bluetooth
  • Camera
  • GPS
  • Thinner and lighter
  • Jellybean

jiveturkey 07-20-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8756056)
Pretty much everything except Amazon integration. I think Google was getting fed up with the other manufacturers taking so long to get good products out there affordably and decided to just do it themselves. The key points:
  • Much better screen resolution
  • Faster hardware
  • Bluetooth
  • Camera
  • GPS
  • Thinner and lighter
  • Jellybean

What he said. Amazon integration isn't of much use to me since I rooted my Fire and turned into into a regular Android tablet.

DaFace 07-20-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey (Post 8756265)
What he said. Amazon integration isn't of much use to me since I rooted my Fire and turned into into a regular Android tablet.

Has that worked pretty well? My wife has expressed some frustration with hers from time to time, so I've debated it. If so, got a ROM you recommend?

vailpass 07-20-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 8756056)
Pretty much everything except Amazon integration. I think Google was getting fed up with the other manufacturers taking so long to get good products out there affordably and decided to just do it themselves. The key points:
  • Much better screen resolution
  • Faster hardware
  • Bluetooth
  • Camera
  • GPS
  • Thinner and lighter
  • Jellybean

Thank you. Amazon integration is why I'd get a tablet but those are some key differences. Wonder if the next gen Fire will come with JellyBean? Or if they will be pushing JB out to the current Fire in an OTA update.


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