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milkman 10-15-2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 7996227)
I by no means support Cassel, but don't most QB's benefit from their recievers YAC? I know the year Brady put up super numbers both Moss and Welker had sick YAC numbers.

Every QB does benefit from yac.

The question then becomes, how much of yac is the result of the QB getting the ball to the receiver accurately and giving him the opportunity to get those extra yards, and how much is the receivers making plays on their own?

Someone would have to really put in a lot of work to break that down.

milkman 10-15-2011 09:53 AM

Then there's the question of how often is the QB going downfield as opposed to tossing the ball short and asking the receiver to run after catch?

Bane 10-15-2011 09:54 AM

So Cassel still sucks right?

jd1020 10-15-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7996238)
Then there's the question of how often is the QB going downfield as opposed to tossing the ball short and asking the receiver to run after catch?

Cassel might have had negative passing yards through the first 5 weeks, if YAC were taken completely out, with the amount of times he threw behind the LoS.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2011 10:01 AM

Knew it was high, but didn't realize it was this high.

75% of Cassel's attempts have traveled less than 10 yards in the air.

21.4% of Cassel's attempts have been thrown behind the LOS.

2011 numbers.

Rausch 10-15-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7996238)
Then there's the question of how often is the QB going downfield as opposed to tossing the ball short and asking the receiver to run after catch?

Nothing new.

Hell, Pats fans complained about this when he was filling in there...

milkman 10-15-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7996245)
Knew it was high, but didn't realize it was this high.

75% of Cassel's attempts have traveled less than 10 yards in the air.

21.4% of Cassel's attempts have been thrown behind the LOS.

2011 numbers.

That's pathetic.

Where'd you find that stat?

I'd like to find out how many have traveled more than 20 yards in the air, and how many of those are completed.

Fritz88 10-15-2011 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7996245)
Knew it was high, but didn't realize it was this high.

75% of Cassel's attempts have traveled less than 10 yards in the air.

21.4% of Cassel's attempts have been thrown behind the LOS.

2011 numbers.

God, this guy is the luckiest guy on planet earth to be starting for an NFL team.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7996257)
That's pathetic.

Where'd you find that stat?

I'd like to find out how many have traveled more than 20 yards in the air, and how many of those are completed.

His ESPN.com player page. Click on "splits" then go to the bottom of the page.

Passes thrown 11-20 yards: 10/22 for 211 yards 1:1 ratio

Passes thrown over 20 yards: 6/13 for 219 yards 1:1 ratio

So he's completing a whopping 45% of his passes over 10 yards. Sadly, that's a slight improvement over past years. Of course, it helps that Bowe has been able to fair catch of a couple of those long "punts" Cassel has thrown.

Rausch 10-15-2011 10:19 AM

So I'm guessing he still sucks...

Hammock Parties 10-15-2011 10:19 AM

He's been better over 20 yards this year.

RealSNR 10-15-2011 10:19 AM

Anybody have memberships to Arrowhead Pride and the other homertastic Chiefs boards?

Shove this in their faces.

Rausch 10-15-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7996277)
Anybody have memberships to Arrowhead Pride and the other homertastic Chiefs boards?

:shake:

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7996277)
Anybody have memberships to Arrowhead Pride and the other homertastic Chiefs boards?

Shove this in their faces.

Nope, and even if I did, I wouldn't bother.

They've ignored these numbers for 3 years, just like the organization has, apparently.

Hammock Parties 10-15-2011 10:32 AM

I've been reposting it all year, but he didn't include my favorite Cassel statistic: wins against playoff teams.

Three in 50 starts, one with the Chiefs, against the 7-9 Seahawks.


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