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Titty Meat 05-05-2013 07:24 PM

If staley sucks Reid can still say he wasn't his worst first round pick.

wazu 05-05-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9660499)
Our OL is set now if Albert is re-signed. So we wont have to worry about spending our 2014 1st round pick on a OL.

BPA. If there's a good OT, he's ours. Period.

RealSNR 05-05-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9660521)
BPA. If there's a good OT, he's ours. Period.

That's why I'm a bit skeptical of Dorsey. It's fine if he's just saying shit like, "You take the best player at the top of your board no matter what" to make it sound like he's not just throwing poo chunks at a dartboard. But if strict BPA really is all he does, that's almost as bad as Pioli's "can never go wrong drafting team captains and try hard nobodies."

BPA has been used to justify some of the most idiotic draft picks in history. When it works, it works. But when it doesn't work, it's pretty terrible.

Saccopoo 05-05-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9660457)
Taking a project G in the 1st round is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Was Reid responsible?

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Saccopoo 05-05-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9660499)
Our OL is set now if Albert is re-signed. So we wont have to worry about spending our 2014 1st round pick on a OL.

I don't know...

Both Matthews and Lewan look like near elite level picks.

If Fisher is actually able to play at the NFL level, we could trade both Albert and Stephenson, who, as stated by most people here, should be playing guard or who suck, respectively, and have two first round, top ten offensive tackles on this team.

Think about the awesome that would be. We'd be only two guards and a center away from building the perfect line.

Rasputin 05-05-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9660508)
Nope.


We need help on the DL though.

:hmmm: Not sure if serious.


Yes our DL may suck but we have been spending our first round picks on them so ****ing bull shit if we spend another top pick on DL next year and neglect the quarterback yet another season.

Rain Man 05-05-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9660601)
:hmmm: Not sure if serious.


Yes our DL may suck but we have been spending our first round picks on them so ****ing bull shit if we spend another top pick on DL next year and neglect the quarterback yet another season.


It's kind of cruel that the weakest unit on our team is the defensive line, and it's the unit that has been flooded with first-round picks for years.

chiefzilla1501 05-05-2013 08:27 PM

CP is unbelievable sometimes. 1) Reid did not pick Watkins, his personnel guys did; 2) 23 is a little high for a Guard, but it's not ridiculous; 3) He was drafted in a draft with pretty poor talent at that spot. You'll recall that we took Jonathan Baldwin and most of us couldn't really think of who better was out there.

chiefzilla1501 05-05-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9660646)
It's kind of cruel that the weakest unit on our team is the defensive line, and it's the unit that has been flooded with first-round picks for years.

The problem isn't so much that we drafted defensive linemen that high that often, it's that we ran a defense where d-linemen aren't playmakers and used that strategy anyway.

Our defense was close to being elite if we stayed in a 4-3 until Pioli force-fitted his system in. It's absolutely crazy to think about how things would be different if we fired Gunther and Peterson didn't idiotically chase Jared Allen away. We could have had Allen-Dorsey-Raji-Hali or with the Allen trade Orakpo-Dorsey-Tank Bailey-Hali.

Hammock Parties 05-05-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9660654)
Reid did not pick Watkins, his personnel guys did

Link?

chiefzilla1501 05-05-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9660666)
Link?

Anybody who knows Philly knows that Joe Banner was calling all the shots, that he was pissing a lot of people off, and that he and Andy Reid were definitely not on the same page. You'll also note that the Eagles went from a great drafting team to holding shitty drafts starting in 2011 once Howie Roseman came on board (probably to be a lackey for Banner).

Blaming this draft on Reid is just plain ig'nant. There's been a lot of smoke that Reid was not happy at where the front office was taking his roster the past few years.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2013 09:47 PM

Hopefully we can set up a trade scenario each offseason leading up to the draft whereby we can constantly use our round one pick to keep fresh fatties coming on both sides of the ball.
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Dave Lane 05-05-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9660464)
at least drafting OL is safe...

Awesome just ****ing awesome...


When the Philadelphia Eagles burned their first-round draft pick on Danny Watkins two Aprils ago, he was projected to slide in at right guard and stick there deep into the future.

After making 12 uneven starts as a rookie in 2011, Watkins eventually was benched last season and now looms as a potential cut, according to Vaughn Johnson of Philly.com

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-05-2013 11:04 PM

Guys, if you're going to take a chance high, it really, REALLY needs to be a lineman. Those positions define eras and are the key factor in post season success.
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BossChief 05-05-2013 11:08 PM

Spending a first round pick on a 27 year old guard isn't rediculous?

WTF?

What could be worse than that?


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