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Nightfyre 03-06-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9469732)
Wow. If Hali is worth a 1 and a 3, maybe the Broncos should trade Dumervil for the majority of someone's draft, since Doom is younger, better, and cheaper than Hali.

You are such a ****ing troll. Doom is a full two months younger than Hali, has a worse contract, and has been less productive than Hali. Not to mention more penalties and worse in the run game.

MagicHef 03-06-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9470667)
You are such a ****ing troll. Doom is a full two months younger than Hali, has a worse contract, and has been less productive than Hali. Not to mention more penalties and worse in the run game.

Um... Doom has played one full season less than Hali, has more sacks, and is cheaper for the remainder of his contract. Not sure what you're talking about.

MagicHef 03-06-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9470651)
The Broncos are asking Dumervil to restructure his contract.

PFF suggests that Dumervil was the most overpaid defender in 2012.

Good. That way we can fit even more talent on the roster.

He may have been a little more expensive than Hali last season, but a lot of that was that Hali had to pay back the salary for the time he missed due to his suspension.

Nightfyre 03-06-2013 02:42 PM

Dumervil: 2013: 12 million/2014: 10 million/2015: 8.2 million
Hali: 2013: 12.25 million/2014: 8.25 million/2015: 8.75 million

While Dumervil has put up more sacks, Hali is a pressure machine who has performed throughout his career.

MagicHef 03-06-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9470908)
Dumervil: 2013: 12 million/2014: 10 million/2015: 8.2 million
Hali: 2013: 12.25 million/2014: 8.25 million/2015: 8.75 million

While Dumervil has put up more sacks, Hali is a pressure machine who has performed throughout his career.

More like:

Doom: 13.6/11.6/9.8
Hali: 15.5/11.5/12.0

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-br...lvis-dumervil/
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...fs/tamba-hali/

Guess which helps teams win more games: sacks or pressures?

RealSNR 03-06-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9470631)
I know, it sounds ridiculous to me as well, but it's right there in the OP.

Who goes onto a Chiefs board where fans are speculating over the trade value of one of their own players, and then has his period because nobody stopped and said, WAIT A MINUT GUYZ WAT ABOUT DUMBVILLE?

It's speculation, you turd. If Dumervil is that much more ****ing valuable than Tamba Hali, then why are you trying to inject him in a conversation about trades? Why don't you speculate about trading Von Miller? Why don't the Texans speculate about trading JJ Watt?

Could it be that Dumervil really ISN'T all that valuable? Especially at the price your troll ass is suggesting?

Keep up the trolling, bud. You won't see any bets with me for an entire year. Now go to your room.

The Franchise 03-06-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9470936)
More like:

Doom: 13.6/11.6/9.8
Hali: 15.5/11.5/12.0

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-br...lvis-dumervil/
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...fs/tamba-hali/

Guess which helps teams win more games: sacks or pressures?

That'd be comparable if that's what we were paying Justin Houston. You're paying that to your 2nd best passrusher.

MagicHef 03-06-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9470940)
Who goes onto a Chiefs board where fans are speculating over the trade value of one of their own players, and then has his period because nobody stopped and said, WAIT A MINUT GUYZ WAT ABOUT DUMBVILLE?

It's speculation, you turd. If Dumervil is that much more ****ing valuable than Tamba Hali, then why are you trying to inject him in a conversation about trades? Why don't you speculate about trading Von Miller? Why don't the Texans speculate about trading JJ Watt?

Could it be that Dumervil really ISN'T all that valuable? Especially at the price your troll ass is suggesting?

Keep up the trolling, bud. You won't see any bets with me for an entire year. Now go to your room.

LMAO

Wow, this is fun.

MagicHef 03-06-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9470946)
That'd be comparable if that's what we were paying Justin Houston. You're paying that to your 2nd best passrusher.

I was talking about trade value, so it shouldn't matter what role he has on the Broncos.

Nightfyre 03-06-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9470936)
More like:

Doom: 13.6/11.6/9.8
Hali: 15.5/11.5/12.0

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-br...lvis-dumervil/
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...fs/tamba-hali/

Guess which helps teams win more games: sacks or pressures?

You are looking at cap hit, dumbass. The Chiefs would have to eat far more of Hali's contract than the Bronco's would of Dumervil's in the event of a trade because the Chiefs paid more in a signing bonus.

MagicHef 03-06-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 9470956)
You are looking at cap hit, dumbass. The Chiefs would have to eat far more of Hali's contract than the Bronco's would of Dumervil's in the event of a trade because the Chiefs paid more in a signing bonus.

Ok, cool.

I'm fairly surprised that people took me seriously. Did you really think that I believed Denver could get half a team's draft for Doom?

I just thought a 1 and a 3 was absurd for Hali, so I thought I would illustrate such an idea with my own absurd trade value.

I mean, you guys traded a 26 year old Allen after leading the league in sacks for #15 and 2 3rds. No way a 29 year old Hali fetches anything similar after being out-sacked by 22 different guys.

Nightfyre 03-06-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9471046)
Ok, cool.

I'm fairly surprised that people took me seriously. Did you really think that I believed Denver could get half a team's draft for Doom?

I just thought a 1 and a 3 was absurd for Hali, so I thought I would illustrate such an idea with my own absurd trade value.

I mean, you guys traded a 26 year old Allen after leading the league in sacks for #15 and 2 3rds. No way a 29 year old Hali fetches anything similar after being out-sacked by 22 different guys.

Allen was a high-risk guy hanging on to his career by a thread who had no contract in place. And yes, I realize you are trolling us and I am eating it up.


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