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ChiTown 05-12-2014 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10626629)
He blew out his knee late in November.
And threw a TD pass shortly after he blew out his knee.

RealSNR 05-12-2014 09:15 PM
I had the QBs ranked like this pre-draft:

Bridgewater
Bortles
Carr
Murray
Manziel
Savage
Bunch of other dudes guaranteed to suck

I'm more pissed about passing on Bridgewater than Manziel. So after that, Murray was the QB I wanted the entire time. It's unbelievable to me that we got him in the 5th.

He's got far more starting potential than a lot of people on here are giving him credit for. His floor is as a Chase Daniel backup. That's his floor. Which is damn high and kind of impressive, really.

The path to becoming a starter in the pros for him isn't as unlikely as some people are saying. I'm still not holding my breath for him to do it, but it's no worse than most other QBs you get from the 2nd round and later.

At this point, the biggest dragon for him to slay is Buttchin, and the sooner he does it the better. I'll be rooting for him, certainly.

Tribal Warfare 05-12-2014 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10626624)
I wish the intrawebnets were around when Jerry Rice was drafted. "He's a lead ass with no speed. Dude runs a 4.55!!!!! He gonna suck111111!!!!!!"
4.67 actually

ChiTown 05-12-2014 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10626634)
4.67 actually
Excellent, even better.:D

milkman 05-12-2014 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10626629)
He blew out his knee late in November.
I'm aware of that.

Watched a lot of Murray, and have always liked him.
Felt he has the same kind of accuracy and anticipation in his game as Brees.

But if he was really thought of as a high draft pick before the knee, I really doubt that knee would have caused a drop into the fifth round.

RealSNR 05-12-2014 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10626617)
People love to throw out the term "noodle arm" without really understanding that some of the best quarterbacks of all time didn't have cannons.

Joe Montana sure as hell didn't have a cannon. Neither did Fran Tarkenton, Drew Brees, or Joe Namath.

Elvis Grbac had a cannon. So did Jeff George, JaMarcus Russell, and Ryan Leaf.

So stop already with the noodle arm bullshit argument.
This.

If you wanna see a real noodle arm, plug in some highlight tape of Downfield Damon Huard. THAT'S a noodle arm.

Tribal Warfare 05-12-2014 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10626642)
This.

If you wanna see a real noodle arm, plug in some highlight tape of Downfield Damon Huard. THAT'S a noodle arm.
Matt "Pro Bowl" Cassel *drops the mic*

BossChief 05-12-2014 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10626639)
I'm aware of that.

Watched a lot of Murray, and have always liked him.
Felt he has the same kind of accuracy and anticipation in his game as Brees.

But if he was really thought of as a high draft pick before the knee, I really doubt that knee would have caused a drop into the fifth round.
How far would Russel Wilson have fell if he blew out his knee in November of his final year in college?

Discuss Thrower 05-12-2014 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10626620)
I like Murray, and thought more highly of him than a 5th round QB.

But generally 5th rounders are 5th rounders for a reason.

I would really love to see us, for once, be the team that finds that hidden gem, but I won't be holding my breath.
Probably because NFL scouts caught on the fact his track record against top college defenses is pretty lackluster to say it nicely.

Not saying that's going to be a prohibitive factor from here on out but that's my guess.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-12-2014 09:26 PM
I'd rather have Foles.

Lex Luthor 05-12-2014 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10626669)
I'd rather have Foles.
You'd rather have the guy who was brilliant last year in the NFL over an unproven rookie.

Wow, way to go out on a limb there.

BossChief 05-12-2014 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10626666)
Probably because NFL scouts caught on the fact his track record against top college defenses is pretty lackluster to say it nicely.

Not saying that's going to be a prohibitive factor from here on out but that's my guess.
Which games aainst good defenses did he struggle in last year?

298 yards 4tds 1int and a rushing td against LSU
309 yards 4tds 0ints against S Carolina
415 yards 2td passing 2rushing tds 1int against Auburn

I'm struggling to find the bad games from last year...

Deberg_1990 05-12-2014 09:35 PM
Or he could be our Kevin Kolb or AJ Feeley

RealSNR 05-12-2014 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 10626682)
You'd rather have the guy who was brilliant last year in the NFL over an unproven rookie.

Wow, way to go out on a limb there.
He would also rather eat cake than stick his penis in a light socket.

It's true! Just ask him!

HoneyBadger 05-12-2014 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10626594)
The only difference is, (and a big one) is that Foles has a ****ing cannon arm and some size while Murray's got a noodle and he's a midget.

So you are basically hoping he somehow becomes low-end Jeff Garcia high-end Drew Brees.
Manning does alright with a noodle arm.


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