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Dayze 03-13-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10488610)
Lets see:::: Berry, Johnson, Flowers,Poe, Hali and Houston. Yep I do believe half our defense were probowlers.

Coaching was our ****ing problem. We have a solid defense.

I was approaching from the perspective of the "Defense" as a whole; players, coaches, scheme etc. No doubt we have some killer parts, but the coaching killed us for sure.

DTLB58 03-13-2014 09:33 PM

I think Kiper is smoking some funky shit if he thinks the Texans are taking a LB from a small school #1 overall in the draft. :p

Okay, a little sarcasm there in reference to our pick last season but still, really? QB,QB,QB. There has got to be one of those guys there you like. You don't convince me otherwise.

Also, just for dream sakes here. But if I were a GM with two top 10 picks in this years draft I'd take Sammy Watkins and Mike Evans and not even lose sleep over it.

Saccopoo 03-13-2014 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10488094)
Cooks and Beckham at 16 and 17.....****.

I don't think that would be a shocker.

In fact, I'm expecting it. (Ravens and Jets.)

OldSchool 03-13-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10489442)
I don't think that would be a shocker.

In fact, I'm expecting it.

Same, I wouldn't be shocked if as many as 5 WRs went before us.

Mav 03-15-2014 12:32 AM

I'm really surprised at the back lash over khalil mack. I love this kid.

planetdoc 04-17-2014 12:49 PM

kiper 4.0

23 - Marqise Lee- Kansas City Chiefs (11-5)

Analysis: The Chiefs are a team I could see moving down, particularly since wide receiver is a need area. The Chiefs don't have their second-round pick due to the Alex Smith trade, and it's a deep draft at receiver. However, in this case I think they'd be walking away with a pretty nice fit in Lee, a player with the route-running and run-after-catch ability that could make him a great fit in this offense.

24 - Bradley Roby - CB - Cincinnati Bengals
25 - Anthony Barr - OLB - San Diego Chargers
26 - Kyle Fuller - CB - Cleveland Browns
27 - Cody Latimer - WR - New Orleans Saints
28 - Morgan Moses - OT - Carolina Panthers
29 - Ra'Shede Hageman - DT - New England Patriots
30 - Jordan Matthews - WR - San Francisco 49ers
31 - Jason Verrett - CB - Denver Broncos
32 - Stephon Tuitt - DE - Seattle Seahawks
(33.) Houston Texans | *Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
(34.) Washington Redskins | Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
(35.) Cleveland Browns | *Davante Adams, WR, Fresno St
(36.) Oakland Raiders | *Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida St.
(37.) Atlanta Falcons | Dee Ford, DE/OLB, Auburn
(38.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi St.
(39.) Jacksonville Jaguars | Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
(40.) Minnesota Vikings | Kyle Van Noy, LB, BYU
(41.) Buffalo Bills | *Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise St.
(42.) Tennessee Titans | Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
(43.) New York Giants | *Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA
(44.) St. Louis Rams | Jimmie Ward, S, No. Illinois
(45.) Detroit Lions | Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
(46.) Pittsburgh Steelers | *Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame

OldSchool 04-18-2014 11:50 AM

The frak? Barr at 25? If we don't take him and he's available at 23, I'm going to start kicking kittens and punching babies.

chiefscafan 04-18-2014 11:56 AM

The reason the D stunk at the end Houston was out. All we need is to get one more quality pass rusher backup in case Hali or Houston get hurt again

OldSchool 04-18-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 10571322)
The reason the D stunk at the end Houston was out. All we need is to get one more quality pass rusher backup in case Hali or Houston get hurt again

We also need Hali's replacement as he is in his 30s now and I don't think that he team intends to keep him beyond the 2015 season.

Barr or Attaochu would be great in that role.

chiefscafan 04-18-2014 12:02 PM

Not sure Barr makes it to is Attaochu would be good. I don't think our D is as bad as some think. Personally adding Owens and Walker were huge upgrades. I'm more worried bout the O

OldSchool 04-18-2014 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 10571333)
Not sure Barr makes it to is Attaochu would be good. I don't think our D is as bad as some think. Personally adding Owens and Walker were huge upgrades. I'm more worried bout the O

The offense put up 44 points without Charles. I think they'll be fine if they can get the OL figured out because Reid's system is designed to succeed with even just average perimeter threats as long as the blocking holds up.

Aspengc8 04-18-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10571353)
The offense put up 44 points without Charles. I think they'll be fine if they can get the OL figured out because Reid's system is designed to succeed with even just average perimeter threats as long as the blocking holds up.

With all due respect, the colts D is atrocious.



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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10488058)
"The Chiefs are going to be a good defense again in 2014"

...they are? They got their shit pushed in for 1/2 of the season, and embarrassed in the playoffs.

You left out the most important part of the quote..

"The Chiefs are going to be a good defense again in 2014 if they stay healthy"

We got our shit pushed in when H/H were hurt and got 0 pressure rushing 4.

OldSchool 04-18-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 10571366)
With all due respect, the colts D is atrocious.





You left out the most important part of the quote..

"The Chiefs are going to be a good defense again in 2014 if they stay healthy"

We got our shit pushed in when H/H were hurt and got 0 pressure rushing 4.

They're the same defense that gave Manning a hard time for much of their game vs the Broncos. Same defense that helped them beat several playoff caliber teams in the regular season.

chiefscafan 04-18-2014 12:24 PM

I think we are gonna be a lot better than most think we are O line worries me but maybe they want to give the youngsters a chance.

Aspengc8 04-18-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10571373)
They're the same defense that gave Manning a hard time for much of their game vs the Broncos. Same defense that helped them beat several playoff caliber teams in the regular season.

They did not seem 100%, which is why we saw almost no man press with 2 high.


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