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htismaqe 02-10-2022 02:55 PM

Serious question...

If depictions like this bother you so much, how in the world do you find ANYTHING to watch?

Not saying I agree with it but I've pretty much come to accept it because it's literally in EVERYTHING now, including commercials.

If you truly want to avoid all of it, there's pretty much nothing you can watch.

Tribal Warfare 02-10-2022 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139182)

If you truly want to avoid all of it, there's pretty much nothing you can watch.


And I know a few guys who actually do avoid it all together. They watch documentaries, and that's it

htismaqe 02-10-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16139190)
And I know a few guys who actually do avoid it all together. They watch documentaries, and that's it

Yuck!

tredadda 02-10-2022 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139201)
Yuck!

Oh my. Outside of Chiefs football, about all I watch are documentaries. My favorites are the history ones like Timeline. Might make me a nerd/dork, or whatever, but I love documentaries and especially ones about historical stuff.

htismaqe 02-10-2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16139229)
Oh my. Outside of Chiefs football, about all I watch are documentaries. My favorites are the history ones like Timeline. Might make me a nerd/dork, or whatever, but I love documentaries and especially ones about historical stuff.

The problem is that a lot of historical documentaries are full of white-washing and post-modern revisionism too. You literally can't escape it anymore.

Frazod 02-10-2022 03:54 PM

Just seems dumb. They're not going to top those movies. What's the ****ing point? :shake:

htismaqe 02-10-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16139252)
Just seems dumb. They're not going to top those movies. What's the ****ing point? :shake:

$$$

BigRedChief 02-10-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16139252)
Just seems dumb. They're not going to top those movies. What's the ****ing point? :shake:

Bezo has $187 Billion and he is a fan?:hmmm:

He loses $1 billion on this, he shrugs. I still have $186 billion left.

htismaqe 02-10-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16139255)
Bezo has $100 Billion and he is a fan?:hmmm:

Millions will watch and they won't care if it's accurate, woke, stupid, brilliant, etc.

It's Middle Earth. It's like churning out Star Wars or Marvel shows. Not all of them are great but all of them are popular. It's a top tier franchise.

tredadda 02-10-2022 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139257)
Millions will watch and they won't care if it's accurate, woke, stupid, brilliant, etc.

It's Middle Earth. It's like churning out Star Wars or Marvel shows. Not all of them are great but all of them are popular. It's a top tier franchise.

Yup. Plus with not a ton of source material, they can be loose with the story. Look at the abomination that Peter Jackson put out known as the Hobbit trilogy. He's excellent and still put out that trash in spite of source material. I fully expect this series to be just as bad, yet just as popular.

Third Eye 02-10-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16139154)
Cant wait to see how "Woke" things were back in the dawn of creation...

They are going to royally **** this up...

It looks like the Dwarf queen is African American......you know, since dwarfs were pale-skinned with red hair....makes perfect casting sense.... maybe we can get a lecture on social equity overtly embedded in the story too. Cant wait...another "Wheel of Time" Amazon flop in the making.

Care to cite where Tolkien ever described the skin or hair color of dwarves? I don’t think you’re going to have much luck.

Even if he had, which he didn’t, how does that change anything with regards to the story? It has the same impact as a different color shirt. The fact that people care about the skin color of made up races is ****ing bizarre.

BlackOp 02-10-2022 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 16139410)
Care to cite where Tolkien ever described the skin or hair color of dwarves? I don’t think you’re going to have much luck.

Even if he had, which he didn’t, how does that change anything with regards to the story? It has the same impact as a different color shirt. The fact that people care about the skin color of made up races is ****ing bizarre.

I dont care about their skin color per se...it's that they made obvious castings decisions BASED on race...which is "woke' behavior/equity.

Amazon did this with Wheel of Time also...and it didn't work. It felt forced and distracting...had to have a lesbian scene, gay characters...every racial demographic accounted for. Social inclusivity trumped making a quality product. It was propaganda embedded into a fantasy series..

I realize this concept may be confusing to some...

tyecopeland 02-10-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16139542)
I dont care about their skin color per se...it's that they made obvious castings decisions BASED on race...which is "woke' behavior/equity.

Amazon did this with Wheel of Time also...and it didn't work. It felt forced and distracting...had to have a lesbian scene, gay characters...every racial demographic accounted for. Social inclusivity trumped making a quality product. It was propaganda embedded into a fantasy series..

I realize this concept may be confusing to some...

Were you at the auditions? Do you know how each actor performed? How else can you be sure that the casting is based on race otherwise? Or are you suggesting that the non-white actors are inherently not as good and so them getting the role has to be based on wokeness?

BlackOp 02-10-2022 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139182)
Serious question...

If depictions like this bother you so much, how in the world do you find ANYTHING to watch?

Not saying I agree with it but I've pretty much come to accept it because it's literally in EVERYTHING now, including commercials.

If you truly want to avoid all of it, there's pretty much nothing you can watch.

I'm watching movies by A24...their current HBO series Euphoria has a black woman as the lead and doesn't feel forced. They actually have a hermaphrodite character...and a multi-cultural cast. Deals with homosexual aspects in a realistic way...

It's only when it's obviously forced and out of context...that it becomes racism veiled as inclusion/woke.

BlackOp 02-10-2022 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16139548)
Were you at the auditions? Do you know how each actor performed? How else can you be sure that the casting is based on race otherwise? Or are you suggesting that the non-white actors are inherently not as good and so them getting the role has to be based on wokeness?

I'm not going to argue this further...watch it, I dont care. **** Amazon..

I'm just telling you, that miscasting is a red flare for calculated "wokeness".

Dont say you weren't warned...and temper your expectations.


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