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ILChief 10-20-2004 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bundle of sticks
Here's the thing. I think Bartee or Battle will get burnt a few times as well. But at least they can tackle, and they have the physical tools, so they might actually turn out to make a few plays.
At least Bartee or Battle (or Sapp) have the potential to get better with PT. Let's face it, Dexter ain't getting any better. Too short and too old.

ceebz 10-20-2004 07:29 AM
I would actually like to see them start Sapp over Battle and Bartee. He's the only guy in the secondary besides Wesley, who can blitz. He also seems to tackle well and he made some nice bumps on wr's in the Jax game.

milkman 10-20-2004 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ceebz
I would actually like to see them start Sapp over Battle and Bartee. He's the only guy in the secondary besides Wesley, who can blitz. He also seems to tackle well and he made some nice bumps on wr's in the Jax game.
The only game that Gun really got involved in defensively when he was the HC was the Ram game.
I thought that Bar Tee played really well in that game.
He was physical in coverage, and he blitzed really well on a couple of plays.

In Gun's scheme, if he remains aggressive, I really believe that Bar Tee has a chance to become a pretty good corner.

But in the big picture of things, I don't care if they just pick up someone off the street.
Anyone has to be better than McPassOn.

ceebz 10-20-2004 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman
The only game that Gun really got involved in defensively when he was the HC was the Ram game.
I thought that Bar Tee played really well in that game.
He was physical in coverage, and he blitzed really well on a couple of plays.

In Gun's scheme, if he remains aggressive, I really believe that Bar Tee has a chance to become a pretty good corner.

But in the big picture of things, I don't care if they just pick up someone off the street.
Anyone has to be better than McPassOn.
I thought Bartee looked ok in the Rams game as well. However, the only corner Gun ever blitzes is, Sapp, and I think it's because the guy plays so aggressively. Sapp made some nice plays at the line of scrimmage in the Jax game. I think he deserves more playing time.

Bartee has already had his chances, I believe if they put him in at #2 CB, it'll be the same thing we've seen from Bartee throughout his NFL career.

htismaqe 10-20-2004 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman
This quote form and, and his standing by Lawrence Phillips for so long when he was the Rams coach are just a couple of reasons why I question Dick's credibility, and his talent evaluation.

It seems that he will vacilate when discussing a player he seems to personally like if that player's talent is questionable, or his character is flawed.

But a player that he has no love for, is one that he will not hesitate to denigrate.

It's obvious that McPassOn is just terrible, but Dick likes him, so in Dick's eyes he's just been beaten a couple of times.

I'll bet McPassOn really loves Dick.
I totally agree.

Guys like Dexter get a free pass, but guys like Johnson get publically humiliated in the media.

Hoover 10-20-2004 08:01 AM
So DV is CRAZY on McLeon but right on about Larry Johnson.

BigRedChief 10-20-2004 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoover
So DV is CRAZY on McLeon but right on about Larry Johnson.
:thumb: nice witty comment. Rep

htismaqe 10-20-2004 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoover
So DV is CRAZY on McLeon but right on about Larry Johnson.
:clap:

milkman 10-20-2004 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ceebz
I thought Bartee looked ok in the Rams game as well. However, the only corner Gun ever blitzes is, Sapp, and I think it's because the guy plays so aggressively. Sapp made some nice plays at the line of scrimmage in the Jax game. I think he deserves more playing time.

Bartee has already had his chances, I believe if they put him in at #2 CB, it'll be the same thing we've seen from Bartee throughout his NFL career.
IMO, both Bar Tee and Warfield were 'developmentaly disabled', to coin a phrase, by the passive schemes utilized by, first, Maty's little brother, and then by Spinner.

They were drafted because of their physicality, then used in systems that didn't take advantage that said physicality.

We've seen the improvement in Warfield's in Gun's scheme.
Last season it was his head that everyone was calling for.

I think that Bar Tee benefits the same way.

Dr. Johnny Fever 10-20-2004 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gaz
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I am looking for the downside of starting Bartee or Battle [I would pick Battle]:

1. Might get beaten badly.
and the difference between that and playing McPeon is......?????

Gaz 10-20-2004 09:27 AM
Ba-dump-bump...
 
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Originally Posted by beer me
and the difference between that and playing McPeon is......?????

IMO, dry humor is better if it is not explained.

xoxo~
Gaz
May be too dry for some.

Dr. Johnny Fever 10-20-2004 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gaz

IMO, dry humor is better if it is not explained.

xoxo~
Gaz
May be too dry for some.
oh. wha?

Iowanian 10-20-2004 09:32 AM
How about some Consistency dick.............?

"Dexter has been suking baows........He needs to take the diapers off and cover his damn man like a condom or his arse is going to the nickle and bartee or Sapp is going to get a shot"

Chiefnj 10-20-2004 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ceebz
I thought Bartee looked ok in the Rams game as well. However, the only corner Gun ever blitzes is, Sapp, and I think it's because the guy plays so aggressively.
Bartee was sent on blitzes several times. On one particular play Harlan noted (and they replayed) how obvious it was and how easily Leftwich was able to hit the hot receiver.

ceebz 10-20-2004 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Bartee was sent on blitzes several times. On one particular play Harlan noted (and they replayed) how obvious it was and how easily Leftwich was able to hit the hot receiver.

Several times? I thought he sent him once? Bartee is so horrible at disguising the blitz.


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