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Saulbadguy 11-30-2004 08:39 AM

There aren't too many LB's worthy of taking in the first round IMO. DE's is another story. I'd say we are "set" at the DT position.

Its either an OLB, CB, or DE as far as defense goes. I don't see us getting rid of Eric Hicks (we love him to much here), and Jared Allen will likely get the nod to start next year, so IMO that rules out a DE.

There are quality CB's and WR's in the first round in this draft...gotta take whats available.

Saulbadguy 11-30-2004 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj
I've read that Williams really isn't that fast. I'm not sure he's worthy of a top 10 pick.

I think one of the problems that the Chiefs will face if they have a top 5 or top 10 pick is the fact that positions of need might not be represented at those picks. I don't think there are any MLB's ranked that high nor any DE's in the top 5. That leaves corner and OLB. It'll be an interesting draft day if Rolle or Johnson are taken before KC picks.

He's the next Keyshawn Johnson. Tall, slow, lanky USC possesion receiver. Not that that is bad, it fits many kinds of offenses, just not ours.

DE's there are plenty of, but almost NO MLB's.

kczoo 11-30-2004 08:40 AM

Draft is a gamble, bank on veterans
 
Look at all the first round busts throughout the leauge over the years with all teams. We have gotten quality players between rounds 3-6. A rookie wideout can make it better than a rookie cb to start in this leauge I believe. Perhaps we take a top wideout through draft and build the D with veterans because lets face it, were lacking talent, but we crave leadership. Gun cant do it from a pressbox. Sign veterans at LB and CB. Im still happy overall with Harts at SS. Wesley I think we signed for a year contract and hes playing like it, but is better than Woods, so we'll split hairs there. Im babbling and this is a waste anyways.

the Talking Can 11-30-2004 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
He's the next Keyshawn Johnson. Tall, slow, lanky USC possesion receiver. Not that that is bad, it fits many kinds of offenses, just not ours.

DE's there are plenty of, but almost NO MLB's.

sounds better than our slow, pass dropping 30 year old WRs....Williams catches everything and he is plenty fast for the NFL....speed is so over rated

Eleazar 11-30-2004 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
Faster as well. I don't think he will last until the late first, though. It would be nice if Mark Clayton would drop to the 2nd round.

It all really depends on our position. If we are in the top 10, and

1) Derrick Johnson is gone
2) Rolle is gone
3) Marlin Jackson is gone

I'd say go with a WR, or maybe even a LT.

I would love to see Edwards wearing red but with gaping holes like we have on defense I think picking offense is inexcusable.

We need a linebacker who can play sideline to sideline, I think is our number 1 need. We need our Ray Lewis, our Brian Urlacher, our Zach Thomas, Julian Peterson, one of those types of guys.

philfree 11-30-2004 09:08 AM

I read that Williams has to be careful to not eat himself into a TE. I say stay away from this guy. We have Gonzo and Wilson as pass catching TEs we don't need a third. We need a 6'3" WR with 4.4 speed and good route running ability not a 4th TE.

PhilFree :arrow:

htismaqe 11-30-2004 09:14 AM

Williams isn't that good. He dominated in college through shear physical ability. He won't get away with alot of that stuff in the pros.

He's the last WR on the board I would take.

HC_Chief 11-30-2004 09:15 AM

ALL D in the draft... free agency for WR.

If Antrel Rolle is on the board when we pick, we had BETTER select him.

Rain Man 11-30-2004 09:20 AM

We desperately need a top-notch WR, but I'm starting to lean more toward a LB with that top pick now. I wouldn't throw myself off a cliff if we got a superstar WR, though.

Saulbadguy 11-30-2004 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise
I would love to see Edwards wearing red but with gaping holes like we have on defense I think picking offense is inexcusable.

We need a linebacker who can play sideline to sideline, I think is our number 1 need. We need our Ray Lewis, our Brian Urlacher, our Zach Thomas, Julian Peterson, one of those types of guys.

Derrick Johnson. He should be our #1 priority. He isn't a MLB though, like Ray, Brian, or Zach. Like I said before, I don't think there are any MLB's worthy of picking in the first round of this draft.

HC_Chief 11-30-2004 09:29 AM

Derrick Johnson is small for an NFL LB. 225# at most.

Antrel Rolle, a bona fide shutdown CB, is where we need to go. (if available)

Saulbadguy 11-30-2004 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Derrick Johnson is small for an NFL LB. 225# at most.

Antrel Rolle, a bona fide shutdown CB, is where we need to go. (if available)

:spock:
6-4 235 is too small?

ChiefsCountry 11-30-2004 09:51 AM

Derrick Johnson is who we should take. Besides Mike Williams will be with Raiders. Him, Clarett, and Ricky Williams all will be Raiders just watch.

jcroft 11-30-2004 09:56 AM

Williams is going to be a great player and I'd love to have him as a Chief. That having been said, our window of opportunity is closing, and our only chance to do something inside of it is to draft defense, defense, defense.

No, I don't take Williams, as tempting as it would be.

htismaqe 11-30-2004 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
:spock:
6-4 235 is too small?

He didn't say TOO small.

But yes, Johnson is a little small.

He's officially listed as 6'4", 235 pounds but most of the draft sites say he is only about 220...


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