Don't know about where you are at ... but they sell Motorola surfboard 5100 at Wal-Mart here in KS for $64 + tax

3year warranty from motorola and lifetime warranty from Wal-mart!

:)

Cliff

There are no Wal-Marts in my area, but I see the 5100 from best buy is $79 with free shipping. I think that is what I need. The rental is a Motorola.

The Cable modems we have been recommending to our customers has been the Motorola Surfboard 5100 or 5120. The are built like tanks and seem to work with a variety of signal levels that arent always the best.

Also they tend to work with those people that are trying to run the IP phones over their cable modem network.

I'm using a Toshiba modem from RR. I have no problems with my VOIP phone...

What model is that Toshiba? We seem to have problems with the 2500 and 2600 versions running ip phone over them. Now it could be user error also.

you dont have to worry about cable modems with NAT, I've never seen one. It's only those shitty DSL modems that are modem/routers. Id go with a Surfboard.

Those are free with the service, aren't they?

Surfboards are really good modems, I have owned two now and have had 0 problems. I think the current one I have is either a 5100 or a 5200 and it has performed flawlessly for quite a while now.

Any cable modem that has router/firewall built in uses NAT. There are actually a ton of these out there. I used a a Motorola SBG1000 (which yes, is a surfboard) for over a year.

but which cable modems have NAT?...ive never seen one.

Any cable modem that is listed as a cable modem\router or advertises a firewall feature utilize NAT.

Motorola uses an SB designation for non-NAT devices, and SBG for multiple device support (NAT) units.

For non Motorola products, if it says router/gateway/firewall/etc on the box, it means it uses NAT. I was in BestBuy a few weeks ago and these were the types of cable modem that dominated the shelves.

If ya want NAT then I "Personally" would rather have a Motorola Surfboard and a good Firewall/Router/Gateway like D-Link, Linksys or alike.

If it were "ME" and I was going to spend some money on HOME network security then I would use the Motorola SB 5100/5120 with a D-Link

http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=354

http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=141

this last one is my personal choice!

http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=66

You can't go wrong with a good Firewall and these all have NAT if that is you main goal !

Cliff

Personally I'd recommend the Zyxel product for a good cheap standards based security device.

http://www.zyxel.com/product/categor...lue=1021873683

Interesting recommendation of D-Link.

I've never bought anything from D-Link that wasn't absolute junk.

I bought the Motorola Surfboard 5100 for $75 delivered to my door step. Thanks for the input. About time I quit giving cox an extra $10 a month.