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philfree 08-19-2005 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by alanm
You know, even though they announced last week that they would return to RF again next year I would expect any day now they announce that TC will be in Missouri next year. :thumb:

They've already signed the contract so both parties would have to agree to declare it void. Besides the crap that has transpired is minor. Imagine a bouncer taking a shot in the face while trying to throw somebody out :rolleyes: That guy probably had his nose broke more then once and Tynes just loosened it up.

PhilFree:arrow:

Anyong Bluth 08-19-2005 02:13 AM

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Yeah you have to be really tough to sucker punch a bouncer. More likely you have to have beer muscles
Well, so far it seems there are two stories and that he blindly swung after being grabbed by the neck. This came from Casey Wiegman's statement, which, I guess, was the only truthful account by a chiefs member since other players lied and said he was jumped. (not true)


After dealing with enough bar incidents, both as a bartender and being legally representation, you have to realize there are few times one party is ever completely wrong, and even fewer you can conclusively prove in court that they are. Testimony by persons that have been drinking are generally unreliable, and video evidence may be inconclusive. Think of the number of times a personnal foul is called in a game on the guy that retaliates for another player's original actions, same difference.

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So the bouncer's family says that litigation is pending? Can a bouncer really sue for doing his job and getting in the middle of a fight? Sounds to me like he should get sued for not handling the situation better. Darn golddigger.
This isn't friday night fights, you don't take a job with the expectation of being assaulted. Bouncers are generally hired to deter the thought of instigating a fight- thats why you choose the largest, most menancing looking ones you can, but if they get involved in a scrum its not a general job requirement to be expected. Bouncers versus a group of pro football players doesn't really follow this traditional fact pattern. What Tynes did can't be justified regardless if he was the one that got physical first, because self-defense clearly limits a defense of one's attack no more proportionate that that which was given, or "give no better than what you get."

The real black eye in the situation will end up being the chiefs player's reputations, because chances are any and all incidents are classic plea charges resulting in fines & varying amounts of community service.

Bottom line, this isn't the old west, you're not proving your manhood by getting into fights at bars.

Terribilis 08-19-2005 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13
“Under Wisconsin statute, if there’s a broken bone, that makes it a felony,” Stapleton said

ahh the nose bone


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