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WisChief 08-23-2005 03:25 PM
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"It's a shock to learn this about a great champion," the former Olympic champion fencer said. "This is certainly an element that could tarnish his image."
His "image"? In who's eyes? The French? Yea, right. :rolleyes:

KingPriest2 08-23-2005 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lzen
How does this look to be true, KingPriest? This looks like a load of crap from the jealous frogs. And some of this stuff in the article takes an idiot to buy into it. :rolleyes:

French Sports Minister Jean-Francois Lamour I thought this guy always supported Armstrong.

WisChief 08-23-2005 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KingPriest2
French Sports Minister Jean-Francois Lamour I thought this guy always supported Armstrong.
You may be confusing this guy with LaBlanc - the TDF race director.

Rain Man 08-23-2005 04:01 PM
Perhaps this is a good time to point out that the Bron cos cheated on the salary cap to get their Super Bowl trophies.

andoman 08-23-2005 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man
Perhaps this is a good time to point out that the Bron cos cheated on the salary cap to get their Super Bowl trophies.
Yeah. And don't forget about the crisco!

hbkeay 08-23-2005 05:55 PM
who cares about cycling anyway? let armstrong be, nobody cares even if he did use drugs.

Tinlar 08-24-2005 10:44 AM
How important do you have to be to someone in order for them to want to keep your 6 year old piss around?

Mr. Laz 08-24-2005 10:48 AM
first off ... why wait and bring this up after he wins and retires.

suspect right there


and with the way i understand it testing for EPO generally has to include another sample from the athlete so they can compare the red blood cell levels. This test happened without a "base sample"


it all sounds hinky

WisChief 08-24-2005 10:51 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=2141710

It's not looking good but this quote stuck out to me:

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Five-time (TDF) cycling champion Miguel Indurain said he couldn't understand why scientists would use samples from the 1999 Tour for their tests.


"That seems bizarre, and I don't know who would have the authorization to do it," he told L'Equipe. "I don't even know if it's legal to keep these samples."

WisChief 08-24-2005 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz
first off ... why wait and bring this up after he wins and retires.

suspect right there


and with the way i understand it testing for EPO generally has to include another sample from the athlete so they can compare the red blood cell levels. This test happened without a "base sample"


it all sounds hinky
And you're correct - the A samples were used up in the initial testing.

StcChief 08-24-2005 11:13 AM
F the French.
They can't win their own race.

Maybe next year, since the Tour De Lance is over.

Braincase 08-24-2005 11:15 AM
The whole chain of custody on the evidence is HIGHLY questionable. I'm calling bullshit. How come they have to go all the way back to '99? Where's the evidence for his other 6 wins?

Mr. Laz 08-24-2005 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Braincase
The whole chain of custody on the evidence is HIGHLY questionable. I'm calling bullshit. How come they have to go all the way back to '99? Where's the evidence for his other 6 wins?
they don't even have a name on the sample let alone any change of custody.

the company won't even verify that it's Armstrongs


someone got a # and tracked it down to "supposedly" being armstrong's # from back in '99.


it's all very loose :shake:

WisChief 08-24-2005 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz
they don't even have a name on the sample let alone any change of custody.

the company won't even verify that it's Armstrongs


someone got a # and tracked it down to "supposedly" being armstrong's # from back in '99.


it's all very loose :shake:

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Separately, the lab said it could not confirm that the positive results were Armstrong's. It noted that the samples were anonymous, bearing only a six-digit number to identify the rider, and could not be matched with the name of any one cyclist.

However, L'Equipe said it was able to make the match.

On one side of a page Tuesday, it showed what it claimed were the results of EPO tests from anonymous riders used for lab research. On the other, it showed Armstrong's medical certificates, signed by doctors and riders after doping tests -- and bearing the same identifying number printed on the results.

Donger 08-24-2005 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WisChief
However, L'Equipe said it was able to make the match.
The same L'Equipe that said this?

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Originally Posted by Whiny French fucks
"Never to such an extent, probably, has the departure of a champion been welcomed with such widespread relief"


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