I have this feeling that you'll be saying the same thing once he starts missing games. :hmmm: It's so obvious there is a problem.

You changed things - you said "all" the first time. I still can't see how you can now rationally say he has put in just as much work as any other defensive player when he has been held out from contact? And just yesterday he was held out of 11-on-11 drills. How many of those has he been held out of? So again, your statement is not accurate - even though it's been softened from "all" to "as much work."

You, like the rest of us, don't have a clue here - and it's obvious. I'll still stand by my original take since day 1 of BELL = DAMAGED GOODS.

D.V. still doesn' know for sure if he'll play in the opener? Get real already.

How can you possibly say I don't have a clue? I watched the guy practice live, and I've been to camp the last 4 years. Do you actually know how much they hit in TC?? Very little. I guess if you want to really be picky, Bell hasn't put in ALL the work because he didn't participate in the MAYBE 2 practices that were totally live. Other than that, he didn't miss a practice.

Bell looked healthy in my eyes. Obviously there is a problem with the shoulder. Could be cautionary, could be more serious then expected. All I am saying is that from watching him live, he looked as healthy as an other LB, and has put in the work this summer.

Q: Any concern about your number two cornerback spot? It seems like McCleon’s been picked on the first two games.

VERMEIL: “I don’t believe that’s true at all. I don’t know where you get that. I know he was blamed for the touchdown (called back) last week and it was not his fault at all. He was actually a rolled up corner and the safety was supposed to be there. But there was nobody in the flat so he stayed with the receiver but it was the safety’s responsibility to make the play.

“Dexter’s played well and I’m pleased with him.



Oh really Dick? Hmm...thats kinda funny. I don't remember McCleon playing well at all. Please Dick, please inform me on how McCleon has played so well. If I were you, I would be shitting in my old man diapers right about now for even thinking that Dexter is probably the same player as he was last year, injury or no injury. For the love of God DV put in Benny Sapp!

Q: Is there some doubt that Kendrell Bell won’t be ready for the opening game, or do you expect him to be out there?

VERMEIL: “I expect him to but we’re not going to put him out there unless he’s really ready."



translation:.....he's still injured...wonderful

Well, he is right that we need to give McCleon safety help. There's no way he's gonna be able to go a whole game without getting some safety help. That's gonna be on Greg Wesley's behind. As some have said, the team has to work together to make up for Warfield not being here, and I think some of that responsiblity is gonna fall on the safeties.

What do you want Dick to say? McCleon's confidence is shot(as well it should be) and the last thing Dick needs to do is say that McCleon is terrible and ruin his confidence even more.

works for Tynes?

ROFL

True

If McCleon is that horrible that DV needs to cover up how ****in terrible he really is, then he needs to be cut or something. Put him in nickle situations where he belongs. DV needs to ****in grow some nuts and cut his beloved players that can't play. I love how he is stubborn and won't admit that he's wrong about players. Notice how DV always says this in the offseason, or other press conf. "I believe our players and defense can get better, because they have to." How many times have you heard DV say that, hes been saying that for the last 3 seasons. Face it DV is one of the worst defensive minds in the NFL if not the worst.

IMO if Gun wanted Sapp, Washington, Hodge etc in there they would be. I don't put this all on DV.

If they were doing it DV's way, like last year, Guns's argument with Kawika never happens.

Surtain, Knight, Bell, Hall and DJ probably wouldn't be here.

I'd like to see Killian get some snaps instead of Quinn anways.

I am sick of DV and his covering up for crappy players. It is just like when he praised Greg Robinson. McCleon has not played well, Tynes has kicked like crap, and there is obviously something wrong with Bell.

I feel like I am listening to someone running for office every time he talks.