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FloridaMan88 08-17-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
You truly are a dickbag.

I must have missed the memo where preseason counted.

I could give a flying **** what happens in the preseason. I'm no Gunther supporter, but I don't give a shit.

You must live a real, real miserable life.


Enlighten us... what exactly is going to change once the regular season begins? This was STARTING defense versus the opposing team's STARTING offense for the few series of the game, and the Chiefs starting defense was humiliated... just like they were last week versus Houston's starting offense.

You like the other Gunther ass kissers can continue to live in denial that your boy is a complete FRAUD and continue to cling to false hope that eventually this defense is going to come around, but through two preseason games the starting defense has shown the same problems that has plagued the defense for the past few seasons.

alanm 08-17-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
I think we should go 0-4 preseason, at least whem we win in the reg. season it will look like an improvement..................

You realize of course Roy we haven't won a preseason game since 04. :)

JBucc 08-17-2006 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th
The thing about the cover two is that it already has been made obsolete by a shift in offensive strategy and personnel. The defense was a response to the West Coast offense, and you won’t find a better defense for shutting down the swing passes and throws out to the flat that were a staple of West Coast offenses seven or eight years ago. But offenses have adapted to this in a variety of ways, including going more vertical and, especially, loading up the offensive line and moving to a power running game, which is an extremely effective counter to a defense built on undersized players that insists on stopping the run with seven defenders. At this point you need to have exceptional personnel to get the defense to really work (as Tampa does), and it’s an absolute disaster to run with incorrect personnel, as any Jets fan can attest. From the moment the Jets installed the defense, their run defense plummeted to the bottom of the league, where it has stayed, challenged only by Tony Dungy up in Indy running his own version of the Cover 2. Which is a long way of pointing out that if you want to run that defense in this day and age and continue to be called a defensive genius…you better have Peyton Manning strapping it up for you.

That's encouraging

tk13 08-17-2006 07:41 PM

It really depends.

I'm not very confident in our line in getting a pass rush straight up yet. But... if we're planning on bringing some blitzes, we're not going to see that until week 1 and preseason really isn't going to tell us anything about that.

ChiefaRoo 08-17-2006 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
Enlighten us... what exactly is going to change once the regular season begins? This was STARTING defense versus the opposing team's STARTING offense for the few series of the game, and the Chiefs starting defense was humiliated... just like they were last week versus Houston's starting offense.

You like the other Gunther ass kissers can continue to live in denial that your boy is a complete FRAUD and continue to cling to false hope that eventually this defense is going to come around, but through two preseason games the starting defense has shown the same problems that has plagued the defense for the past few seasons.


Well you see it's complicated. Over here you've got what is called execution and over here you've got gameplanning and finally over here you've got talent. When you combine them all together you've got umm a defense and the players are playing all defensivelike and then over here you've got the offensive and they're trying to move the ball forward. I'd have to say that about sums it up and there you go.

Saulbadguy 08-17-2006 07:47 PM

You are most likely a failure in real life.

noa 08-17-2006 07:48 PM

Once we get Tamba Hali in there, everything will be fine. Our defense will be number one.

Basileus777 08-17-2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JBucc
That's encouraging

The Cover 2 is so obsolete that only 4 new teams are adopting it this year. :rolleyes:

Hammock Parties 08-17-2006 07:54 PM

It's just this soft zone shit. We aren't going to play it every down in the regular season.

Valiant 08-17-2006 07:55 PM

Outside a few blitzes I have seen no schemes by either side of the team on plays... They are straight playing vanilla cover 2... We willl not have a clue how good/bad this team is until the regular season with the amount of info they are giving other teams...

eChief 08-17-2006 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
I think we should go 0-4 preseason, at least whem we win in the reg. season it will look like an improvement..................

You mean IF we win in the regular season! I don't even see anything with the offense that makes me feel good. Not a single player on the team seems to be sharp.

eChief 08-17-2006 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy
You are most likely a failure in real life.

Sounds like the voice of experience. :hmmm:

chiefs4me 08-17-2006 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo
Well you see it's complicated. Over here you've got what is called execution and over here you've got gameplanning and finally over here you've got talent. When you combine them all together you've got umm a defense and the players are playing all defensivelike and then over here you've got the offensive and they're trying to move the ball forward. I'd have to say that about sums it up and there you go.







hmmm, I thought that is what we were supposed to be doing tonight...why didn't someone tell me it was just a practice...:shake:

Sam Hall 08-17-2006 08:13 PM

I certaintly hope the defensive scheme is different in the regular season. My problem is the ineffective blitzing. We have seen this for years. The defense doesn't reach the quarterback on time, and then the quarterback throws a quick pass to an open receiver for a first down. Yes, it is the interior line's fault. It drives me crazy.

noa 08-17-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eChief
You mean IF we win in the regular season! I don't even see anything with the offense that makes me feel good. Not a single player on the team seems to be sharp.

Its a preseason game...it amazes me how distraught people get over preseason games. Our first string offense was on the field for two series (minus Brian Waters mind you) and we are ready to proclaim that the offense won't accomplish anything this season. Just relax, wait till we blow out the Bengals in the opener, and then hop back on the bandwagon.


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