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shaneo69 08-18-2006 10:01 AM

Gretz: "This group of Chiefs veterans has done nothing to think they are anything special in the NFL. They didn’t make the playoffs last year, or the year before. They’ve made the playoffs once in the last eight years. All those Pro Bowl berths and offensive records are withered flowers when it comes to the 2006 season.

As a team, they’ve accomplished nothing. And, that’s exactly what they accomplished Thursday night before a national television audience: nothing."



Whatever you do, Bob, don't blame the guy who has assembled these players who have made the playoffs once in the last eight years.

jiveturkey 08-18-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
When was the last time you saw Black play GUARD? Name it for me, and then I'll explain to you why you're wrong.

I prefer Black at Guard as well but I would still like to hear your thinking behind it.

chiefqueen 08-18-2006 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneo69
Gretz: "This group of Chiefs veterans has done nothing to think they are anything special in the NFL. They didn’t make the playoffs last year, or the year before. They’ve made the playoffs once in the last eight years. All those Pro Bowl berths and offensive records are withered flowers when it comes to the 2006 season.

As a team, they’ve accomplished nothing. And, that’s exactly what they accomplished Thursday night before a national television audience: nothing."



Whatever you do, Bob, don't blame the guy who has assembled these players who have made the playoffs once in the last eight years.

If he did that he wouldn't get paid, then how would he eat??

ChiefsCountry 08-18-2006 11:56 AM

I remember watching Black destroy Ray Lewis on MNF. Guard seems to be his natural position, heck that is what we drafted him for.

ChiefsCountry 08-18-2006 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneo69
Whatever you do, Bob, don't blame the guy who has assembled these players who have made the playoffs once in the last eight years.

Okay write an article telling your boss that he picked the wrong people.

htismaqe 08-18-2006 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiveturkey
I prefer Black at Guard as well but I would still like to hear your thinking behind it.

My thinking behind the specific post was that he won't be able to name the last time he saw Black at guard...can you?

The simple fact is that Black has seen limited snaps at guard and has been good to DOMINANT (vs. the Ravens in 2004) at the position.

But people's minds are so clouded by his putrescence at tackle that they can't separate the two positions. He sucks at tackle so therefore he must completely suck.

tk13 08-18-2006 12:07 PM

The wheels on the bus go over Vermeil, over Vermeil, over Vermeil. The wheels on the bus go over Vermeil, all the live long day.

tk13 08-18-2006 12:21 PM

Seriously though, this is going to get old really quick, especially from Gretz. Vermeil hasn't been here for almost 9 months now. I don't want to hear this garbage every time we lose how it's Vermeil's fault because we're not a "team". He's not here anymore! We have a a brand new coaching staff that's had months of OTA's and mini camps and training camp to work with the team and mold them. We hear all this garbage about the changes they made to make it more like a "team", and then when it doesn't work right away we're going to blame Vermeil again.

That's a bunch of garbage... and it's the real problem with this organization, nobody is ever held at fault. Just like Gunther can fail and fail and fail... and first it's the players, then it's the coaches. But never Gunther! Or Carl getting 218 chances to build this team. Everybody always has an excuse.

Mr. Laz 08-18-2006 12:25 PM

hey ... at least nobody can blame the offense on Herm and Solari now.

jiveturkey 08-18-2006 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
My thinking behind the specific post was that he won't be able to name the last time he saw Black at guard...can you?

The simple fact is that Black has seen limited snaps at guard and has been good to DOMINANT (vs. the Ravens in 2004) at the position.

But people's minds are so clouded by his putrescence at tackle that they can't separate the two positions. He sucks at tackle so therefore he must completely suck.

I can't remember either but I do remember it being his college position at ND.

I also now remember the Ravens game. I ceratinly hope that we can keep him there and allow him to develop in one position (both sides though).

Bober doesn't look like a good option even off the bench.

Halfcan 08-18-2006 12:34 PM

Wow, bad news!

Mr. Laz 08-18-2006 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe
When was the last time you saw Black play GUARD? Name it for me, and then I'll explain to you why you're wrong.

last night against the Giants :shrug:

ct 08-18-2006 12:41 PM

I'm not seeing anything about Will Shields anywhere except this article from Gretz. Anyone else?

htismaqe 08-18-2006 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
last night against the Giants :shrug:

I haven't actually seen the game yet. :D

ct 08-18-2006 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz
last night against the Giants :shrug:

Yes he did play at G last night, and I saw him get burned badly once. Honestly the only time I saw him.


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