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Loki 09-22-2006 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae
Wow, I feel for ya man. Keep up the good fight, those kids are worth it!

Something to think about, how difficult would it be to get asshole busted with all those drugs around the house? If she is sitting in the Pen she won't be harming the kids. Heck, it might even give her a chance to dry out and find herself.

hmmm... well to be perfectly honest, i have a state cop friend who i discussed possible "busted" scenarios with. unfortunately for me, i have WAYYY too much motive and they'd be knocking on my door all too quickly. damn...

personally instead of finding "herself", i'd prefer she found a long piece of rope and something to hang herself on...

Loki 09-22-2006 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free
Dude i dont even know where to start, as parcells said i dont know that i would have been able to keep my cool, i might have wound up in jail where i would be totally useless=dont go that route as tempting as it is. All you can do is LOVE your kids to death, let'em know how much they mean to you EVERY DAY. I've got a 16 yr.old daughter and 15yr.old son who i get to see every other weekend and i tell them every day. Just remember that when they grow up they will KNOW who loves them and who they want to be around and that rotten bitch will prolly die a broken and LONELY woman. Just keep doing the right thing and you'll win. Godbless!!!

naahh. i don't want to go to the "stripey hole" (jail).

i tell my kids i love them and that i'm proud of them thousands of times a day. they have been through a LOT of crap and been exposed to sh*t that NO CHILD should have to deal with. i just hope i can provide them with some semblance of a happy childhood before it is too late for them... they were forced to grow up well before their time. cripes, when my kids lived with asshole, my poor daughter had to take the role of mother because her "mother" was always off getting fucked up. she did everything from feed him to changing his diapers @ the age of 5. she's a tough little bird, and has always exceeded my expectations.

heh... i don't care if asshole dies broken and lonely... i'll be satisfied with the dying part though... ;)

Loki 09-22-2006 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
We got custody of my teenage girls 2 months ago and have to attend their mother's appearl next week. You can do it.

congrats on your victory.

Adept Havelock 09-22-2006 11:24 PM

Fight the good fight Loki. I know you can win this one.


Nolite bastardes carborundorum

greg63 09-22-2006 11:28 PM

Thoughts and prayers for you and your kiddos.

God Bless.

Phobia 09-22-2006 11:28 PM

Loki,
I know you have a lot of anger for their mother. I know. I've been there. But she probably won't always be drugged up screwup. She may yet get cleaned up and straighten her life up - which is what you want to happen, believe it or not. Those kids are half of her and if she's an abysmal life failure, they're going to have that hurdle to cross in addition to all the others.

You've got it rough brutha. I wish you well.

The best thing is that you have your kids pretty young. They have a chance. Let me know if I can be of help in some way.

Loki 09-22-2006 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater
Our legal system is entirely ****ed up when it comes to this stuff, I'll never understand why the men are always at such a disadvantage. The fact that DSS is entertaining accusations from someone with her background is disturbing as well.

I just hope all turns out well for you & your kids.

dude, that makes two of us!!! WTF is up with the bias against men? :shrug:

as far as DSS is concerned i fully agree. 45 fuckin days of those assfucks crawling up my ass and dragging my kids down "memory lane"... AGAIN...
everyone keeps saying we need to move the kids beyond all this, yet they're going to drag them through it all over again. hypocritical jackasses... :shake: . they're going to find me "negligent" in my children's development when asshole the crackhead is the one calling them 40 times a week making the claims and halting all and any means of forward progress??!!

good work DSS. real perceptive... :rolleyes:

Loki 09-22-2006 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by go bo
loki...

congratulations for getting custody of your kids... :toast:

i wouldn't worry too much about the court giving custody back to your ex... i mean asshole...

once you've gotten custody based on the mother's behavior, the likelihood that she would regain custody s roughly equal to the likelihood that that i could fly away like a hummingbird any time soon...

don't hold your breath...

you've already won the war (custody), a few more skirmishes and it will all be over with, is my guess...

i was hoping to hear your perspective on this. (you're an attorney aren't you?)

i understand that once custody is granted that it's going to take some SERIOUS pull to overturn the decision. (as far as i know, the intricacies of this case may or may not have set some new precedence in my state... @ least that's what the judge and the GAL were discussing at the last hearing)

my questioning deals more with what GOOD is this decision going to do for me or my kids when she has:
a. visitation
b. is already violating the court order (and in contempt of court) with said visitation based on the fact that she is NOT to have my kids anywhere near ex-convict and gangsta-boy. (according to the order set @ the hearing before custody was assigned to me)

she is the type of asshole that will "agree" with everything in front of the judge, but will do whatever the fuck she wants to do when she leaves the courtroom. she violated the separation/divorce agreement(s) the moment she stepped foot out of the courthouse and never got in trouble, and she is already violating these custody proceedings and we're not even done with all the hearing for fuck's sake!!!

so what good is "full custody" when she has ANY visitation whatsoever considering her blatant disregard of the judge's orders??!!

*groan* :rolleyes: :shake: :rolleyes:

anyways, thanks for your thoughts bo.

luv 09-23-2006 12:00 AM

If you and your ex's roles were reversed, she'd have already been granted full custody. I don't know why it is that the law thinks that mothers deserve more slack than fathers, or that they can somehow care for their children any better than the fathers just because they gave birth to them. Fathers are just as much a part of their children as the mothers are.

You're in my thoughts. Best of luck to you.

Halfcan 09-23-2006 12:08 AM

Hey good luck-I went through a similar situation-mostly abandonment by their Mom-she was wrapped up with a LOSER, that hit my kids. One time when I picked them up, he stepped around the doorway holding a butcher knife to his throat in the background as if to say he was going to kill me. Big Mistake. I stormed in the house after him. He screamed like a girl, dropped the knife, and ran out the back door-through the screen. I got a hand on him ripping his shirt off, but he got away. I chased him up the street-it was 100 degrees out and he was barefoot-burning the living shit out of his feet. I guess he really thought he was a big man and I was going to be scared of a knife. The only smart thing he did that day was to drop it and run. He actually called the cops on ME and said that I tried to kill him-what a dumbshit!!! Yep a real BADASS picking on kids and threatening someone with a big knife.

Long story short, I got FULL custody, the house, everything. You have to be able to stand up for whats right and FIGHT for it at all cost.

Since then, she has straightened up-she had the guy arrested for breaking into her home when she was at work and he went to jail. We share custody depending on our schedules and ALWAYS put the kids first-its not a game-its their life.

A year later, I got a SORRY letter from that asshole-like that could ever make up for what he did-I think it was so he could have peace of mind that I was not waiting around the corner for him. Revenge would have been sooo sweet, but in the long run it would have ruined my life and my kids life-looking back, I am kinda glad he dropped the knife and ran-even though he was a sorry sack of shit-it would be tough to have it on my conscience that I put him out of my misery.

Valiant 09-23-2006 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Loki
i was hoping to hear your perspective on this. (you're an attorney aren't you?)

i understand that once custody is granted that it's going to take some SERIOUS pull to overturn the decision. (as far as i know, the intricacies of this case may or may not have set some new precedence in my state... @ least that's what the judge and the GAL were discussing at the last hearing)

my questioning deals more with what GOOD is this decision going to do for me or my kids when she has:
a. visitation
b. is already violating the court order (and in contempt of court) with said visitation based on the fact that she is NOT to have my kids anywhere near ex-convict and gangsta-boy. (according to the order set @ the hearing before custody was assigned to me)

she is the type of asshole that will "agree" with everything in front of the judge, but will do whatever the fuck she wants to do when she leaves the courtroom. she violated the separation/divorce agreement(s) the moment she stepped foot out of the courthouse and never got in trouble, and she is already violating these custody proceedings and we're not even done with all the hearing for fuck's sake!!!

so what good is "full custody" when she has ANY visitation whatsoever considering her blatant disregard of the judge's orders??!!

*groan* :rolleyes: :shake: :rolleyes:

anyways, thanks for your thoughts bo.

You get your cop friend or hire a PI to follow her and take pictures of her when she is violating these agreements..

Personally I would be more worried about her just nabbing the kids coming from what you have wrote...

Loki 09-23-2006 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Loki,
I know you have a lot of anger for their mother. I know. I've been there. But she probably won't always be drugged up screwup. She may yet get cleaned up and straighten her life up - which is what you want to happen, believe it or not. Those kids are half of her and if she's an abysmal life failure, they're going to have that hurdle to cross in addition to all the others.

You've got it rough brutha. I wish you well.

The best thing is that you have your kids pretty young. They have a chance. Let me know if I can be of help in some way.

you're damn right i'm all about anger with that complete waste of skin.

i tried the "understanding" and "compassionate" route with that sh*tstain for far too long and got burned far too many times. but that's with me... i'm a big boy and can handle that.
what i can't forgive and probably never will is what she has done to my kids. inexcusable, unforgiveable.
if the day ever comes that my children can forgive her for what she has done to them, then i might consider changing my tune. but i have a strong feeling that it isn't going to happen for a LONG time if it ever happens at all.

the simple fact is that she's a friggin addict, and would sell her grandmother's soul to save her own worhtless ass without a second thought... i can't, couldn't and won't trust her.

it was a "shotgun wedding" to begin with. i never loved her, but did love the idea of being a dad and do love my kids. they are the best things to ever happen in my life. for them i am thankful to her... for everything else, she can completely FOAD...
her family is a complete mess as well and are probably linked to organized crime (mafia). this has NOT been an easy road... both of her brothers have threatened my life. sweet stuff eh?
i must admit i do worry from time to time when i put the keys in the ignition every morning to go to work... is today the day i blow up??

cripes... old loki's randy wang done got him in a heap'o'trouble... :shake:

Logical 09-23-2006 01:11 AM

Loki, you are in my thoughts as are your children. It is so wrong that the young must endure such trials may the creator give your family peace and guidance.

ChiefFan31 09-23-2006 02:08 AM

Wow, I just read this....

Un-****ing-believable. That is a true nightmare story man. Prayers for your situation and for your kids. I never really read stories about this, but have heard of a few.

It really is a shame in this instance how the courts will bend over backwards to accomodate the mother of the children.

And lastly, I applaud your willingness and patience to stick by the system and see this thing through the legal way. I couldnt imagine how hard it was to not go over there and physically (talking about loser boyfriend) do something about it, but where would that get you? In jail and your kids in her permanent custody...

One thing...maybe a Private Detective to get photos of the kids mother doing drugs is a possibility? Even though it sounds like the time for that possibility has passed with you getting custody, but maybe it could help to minimize her visitation rights :shrug: (just a thought)

Chief Henry 09-23-2006 07:10 AM

Prayers have been sent Loki and Prayers are powerful.

Its amazing what some children have to put up with.


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