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Easy 6 12-20-2006 10:40 AM

If Trent goes i would rather keep Huard & bring in a QB guru to school Brody.

I have changed my tune about Damon, he knows the system, played very well & the system could be worked around him even more. Not to mention that hopefully the line is bolstered & a #1 WR brought in.

On second thought, maybe we dont need a QB "guru", Shea could probably mold Croyle. He certainly had Damon playing well.

FloridaMan88 12-20-2006 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins
He's spent the last three years in the WCO. I'm sure he'll be a seamless transition...:rolleyes:

This argument you have attempted to make multiple times about Schaub being a bad option because he isn't familiar with the system is a pretty pathetic argument.

KNOWING a system and having the physical tools and skills to EXECUTE and EXCEL in a system are two different things and the latter is far more important. Todd Collins has been in this system of offense for a half a decade now yet he wouldn't be able to perform anything close to as well as Schaub would be able to.

Schaub has a strong arm and precision accuracy... you can't teach that.

If you only want a QB who has extensive knowledge of this system that would limit your choices to the likes of Kurt Warner, Jamie Martin, Todd Collins and Damon Huard... none of whom are long term solutions.

Mr. Laz 12-20-2006 11:48 AM

maybe in '08 ... but he's not going anywhere in Atlanta unless someone trades for him.


i doubt Atlanta does trade him either ..... cause deep down they know that Vick isn't the answer.

Bowser 12-20-2006 11:54 AM

If we're going to trade away a first round draft pick, it had best be for a player like Chris Samuels.

Even if Schaub did come here, he'd still be playing QB on a team with a guard at left tackle.

chubychecker 12-20-2006 12:17 PM

What about that kid who played for Arizona last year; McCown. I don't even know where he is playing now which is probably a negative reflection of his talent level. He sured played well in limited duty though. Probably could be had for a lot less.

Hootie 12-20-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007
I want Matt Cassell. He's a diamond in the rough. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/552470

Dude never even played in college. No thanks.

Hootie 12-20-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser
If we're going to trade away a first round draft pick, it had best be for a player like Chris Samuels.

Even if Schaub did come here, he'd still be playing QB on a team with a guard at left tackle.

why the hell is washington going to trade their pro bowl LT?

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-20-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88
This argument you have attempted to make multiple times about Schaub being a bad option because he isn't familiar with the system is a pretty pathetic argument.

KNOWING a system and having the physical tools and skills to EXECUTE and EXCEL in a system are two different things and the latter is far more important. Todd Collins has been in this system of offense for a half a decade now yet he wouldn't be able to perform anything close to as well as Schaub would be able to.

Schaub has a strong arm and precision accuracy... you can't teach that.

If you only want a QB who has extensive knowledge of this system that would limit your choices to the likes of Kurt Warner, Jamie Martin, Todd Collins and Damon Huard... none of whom are long term solutions.

Or should I back that up with the additional info that he's never done anything in the regular season? Should I salivate over the fact that he was MVP of the Tokyo Bowl? You have no idea what you are talking about. Learning the Coryell offense isn't exactly like learning how to play dominos, it's incredibly complex.

We have a QB here w/ a year in the system in Croyle. We can pick up some street trash to be our 3rd stringer. Green isn't going anywhere next year. He'll give us one more year before we can transition to the rookie. If the coaches don't like what they've seen from Croyle, they can draft another QB, but wasting a 2nd rounder-3rd rounder (which is what it would take in compensation, most likely) for a still unproven Schaub, is foolish

Demonpenz 12-20-2006 01:03 PM

herm is going to mold croyle into the type of quarterback he wants. Game manager who dinks and dunks and doesn't turn the ball over. Hell he will probably teach him how to punt so they can do that on 2nd and 3rd downs

L.A. Chieffan 12-20-2006 01:09 PM

Do we ALWAYS have to run out and get everybodys leftovers or second stringers?

Spicy McHaggis 12-20-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free
If Trent goes i would rather keep Huard & bring in a QB guru to school Brody.

I have my doubts Huard will be a Chief next year. He definately did enough to have a team desperate for a QB plunk a good deal of money down in front of him and I don't think Carl would match.

Also as well as Huard handled this past year I imagine he'd like to be somewhere with a coach who looks him in the eye and tells him he's the starter.

Easy 6 12-20-2006 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis
I have my doubts Huard will be a Chief next year. He definately did enough to have a team desperate for a QB plunk a good deal of money down in front of him and I don't think Carl would match.

Also as well as Huard handled this past year I imagine he'd like to be somewhere with a coach who looks him in the eye and tells him he's the starter.

Good points all, but its hard to say if Trent will come back & if he doesnt
i would bet Herm does give Damon the nod. Unless Huard goes to a team that runs a similar system, i think he would be making a bad move to leave.

He's a pretty old dog to be learning new tricks.

milkman 12-20-2006 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan
Do we ALWAYS have to run out and get everybodys leftovers or second stringers?

In this case, Atlanta's "leftover" is a pretty damn good one.

I, however, wouldn't give up a draft pick for him, because he is still a relatively unproven commodity.

I also like Croyle's potential.

I'd wait till Shaub reaches UFA status, then go after him to compete for the job.

That way you have two young QBs with potential, so you won't be putting all your eggs in one basket.

BucEyedPea 12-20-2006 02:45 PM

I wouldn't mind havin' Schaub!
Simms is out! Rattay is in.

Hootie 12-20-2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis
I have my doubts Huard will be a Chief next year. He definately did enough to have a team desperate for a QB plunk a good deal of money down in front of him and I don't think Carl would match.

Also as well as Huard handled this past year I imagine he'd like to be somewhere with a coach who looks him in the eye and tells him he's the starter.

I don't think Huard has the LJ syndrome and needs a coach to constantlyl reassure him.

Besides, being a backup QB is the best job in sports.


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