scoring 17 points a game might be a sweet plan when your D doesn't resemble a busted up colander (HELLO TAMPA) but when your corners are walking around in olive oil before the kickoff, your safeties are getting burnt deep despite playing prevent on every down and you signed your DTs at The Longest Yard's casting session then you need some MORE FCKEN POINTS Hermie

There was a nice article on espn about Tom Moore and Peyton. It basicly said that they have one of the simpliest offenses in the league. It is just Peyton that makes the defense think too much.
And that Peyton calls all of the plays on the field.

IMO Dungy was brought in there and basicly was told you do something with this defense while Moore and Manning take care of the offense.
Dungy never has had an offense that he designed or implimented that wasn't bottum of the league.

Funny how JoPo doesn't mention what a certain defensive genius has done to win 3 Super Bowls this decade.

Manning has patience. He can dink, dunk and chew (no sean, not jew) but then you play up and he cooks you deep. Hard to defend against. Oh and he throws the ball to the reciever (as long as they turn in the right direction) and mostly they catch the thing. that helps aswell

and almost didn't work against the Titans. :banghead:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6289610

Why isn't Lovie Smith a genius?
Michael David Smith / FootballOutsiders.com
Posted: 40 days ago

Lovie Smith is a genius.

The word "genius" may be overused when discussing football coaches, but there's not a better word to describe Smith, the Chicago Bears' head coach, who has a masterful ability to improve any defense he coaches.

The "genius" tag for football coaches goes at least as far back as Paul Brown, founder and coach of the Cleveland Browns, and it was routinely affixed to Bill Walsh in the 1980s when he coached the San Francisco 49ers. Walsh was one of two coaching geniuses of the 1980s; the word also was used to describe Joe Gibbs when he won Super Bowls with the Washington Redskins.

More recently, New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick has been described as a genius, and he earned that label when his defense shut down the offense of another so-called genius, former St. Louis Rams coach Mike Martz, in the Super Bowl.

But why wouldn't the label also apply to Smith? Smith has built the best defense in the league in Chicago. Last year it was so good that the Bears were the second seed in the NFC despite spending most of the season with a quarterback, Kyle Orton, who looked like he'd have trouble cracking the starting lineup on most good college teams. This year the defense is even better, and the Bears are the favorite to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

This is Smith's first head coaching job, but it isn't the first time he has taken over a defense and yielded immediate results. In 2001, Smith became the defensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams. Before Smith arrived, the Rams had allowed a league-worst 471 points. In Smith's first season, the Rams allowed 273, seventh-best in the league. In 2002 and 2003, the Rams' "Greatest Show on Turf" offense began to decline, and it was the defense that kept St. Louis competitive. The Rams' defense collapsed in 2004, when Smith left for Chicago.

One reason Smith isn't credited as a genius is that he isn't the inventor of a specific Xs-and-Os system. Smith runs the so-called Tampa 2 defense that goes back to his time as linebackers coach for Tony Dungy with the Buccaneers from 1996 to 2000. But the two coaches who most often get the credit for that defense — Dungy and defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin — have had significantly less impressive defenses than Smith has recently. Smith, Dungy and Kiffin all arrived in Tampa Bay at the same time, and although Smith had left for St. Louis before the Buccaneers won the Super Bowl, Smith's role in developing the Tampa Bay defense shouldn't be overlooked.

Smith has one truly innovative approach to defense: his obsession with eliminating "loafs." A loaf is any play in which a player isn't giving his full effort at any point between the snap and the whistle. Smith and his staff review game film and watch every player on every defensive play. When a player doesn't hustle — say, a pass-rushing lineman stops after the throw rather than turning around and running downfield — he gets a check by his name on Smith's loaf chart. Smith makes it clear to his players that the more checks they have by their names, the less they'll enjoy the following week's practices.

It sounds simple — hardly the stuff of genius — but it works. Smith's linemen try to make the tackle after complete passes. Smith's defensive backs sprint to the line of scrimmage on runs. Watching the Bears' defense is watching something that should be commonplace but isn't: 11 players playing to their full potential.

Aside from Smith, here are the half-dozen coaches who deserve the genius label for their defensive systems.


Greasy Neale, the coach of the Philadelphia Eagles in the 1940s, whose Eagle Defense was the first to move the middle guard off the line of scrimmage in passing situations, paving the way for today's middle linebackers.

Tom Landry, who as defensive coordinator of the New York Giants in the 1950s built off some of Neale's schemes in pioneering the 4-3 defense. Landry was also one of the first defensive coaches to put a fifth defensive back on the field in passing situations, what has since been

Hank Stram, the coach of the Kansas City Chiefs in the 1960s, who created both the Triple Stack defense (which aligned the defensive tackles over the opposing center, helping the Chiefs control the middle of the line), and many of the first zone defenses in the 1960s (which were a response to the pass-first offenses in the American Football League and were an early predecessor of today's Cover 2).

Bill Arnsparger, who spent 18 seasons as Don Shula's primary defensive assistant with both the Baltimore Colts and Miami Dolphins. In drawing up a game plan to frustrate New York Jets quarterback Joe Namath, Arnsparger created what he called the 53 defense, featuring five linemen, with one or two moving into linebacker-like positions before the snap. That defense is the forbearer to today's 3-4 defenses.

Buddy Ryan, the defensive coordinator of the Bears in the 1980s and later head coach of the Eagles and Cardinals, who created the 46 defense, which stacked linebackers and defensive backs near the line of scrimmage to shut down opposing running attacks and force quarterbacks to pass quickly rather than read through their progressions.

Bill Belichick, whose 3-4 defense with the New England Patriots won three Super Bowls this decade.
Why isn't Smith yet listed among this group of innovators? Why haven't Smith's "loafs" caught on as an NFL buzzword the way the 46 defense or the Cover 2 did? Perhaps it's because it sounds simple, not strategic. Just making sure you try hard on every play is the stuff of Pop Warner coaches.

But more likely, the reason Smith hasn't yet gotten the credit he deserves is that he hasn't yet made an impact on the postseason. The worst game of Smith's coaching career came 11 months ago at Soldier Field, when Chicago was eliminated from the playoffs. On that day the Bears' game plan against the Carolina Panthers was too rigid, failing to account for the Panthers' tendency to run their offense through one player, wide receiver Steve Smith. In the Bears' 29-21 loss to the Panthers, Smith torched Chicago's secondary for 12 catches and 218 yards.

Next month Smith will get another chance to show what his defense can do in the playoffs. If he succeeds, football fans will begin to recognize him for what he is: one of the best defensive minds in the game.

I'm giving him another year before I make a decisiontoo, lets see how he does this year and changes he makes.

actually it is a chess match ...


priest holmes used to talk about it exactly like chess. Every team has great athletes in the NFL.

The key is who can train, motivate and utilize their great athletes better than the other guy.

utilize = chess

each chess piece has it's own particular strength and it's up to the Chess player to make the most out of those strengths.

herm is looking more and more reeruned everytime he opens his mouth.

Though you wont find me trying to argue that Herm Edwrads is the sharpest tool in the drawer, I will say that a defensive coach is better off taking the position he does. An offensive minded caoch is more the Chess player in that he is looking for matchups. On the defense, you are basically lining up and playing the scheme.

The only time you have an advantage in chess, is on offense.

Not true. Isn't blitzing a chess match? Where is it coming from, how many guys, what down?? Switching between zone and man coverage, stunts, etc.

Well, to be fair, Lovie's 1999 Rams defense had to face a rejuvenated Todd Blackledge, finally out from under the yoke of Carl Peterson, who drafted, but never believed in, him.

Pure Genious.

If this is the case...then herm needs to do the Blitzkrieg every time!!!

Of course the Colts offense isn't complex. They have a HOF QB, a HOF WR, and another excellent WR opposite him, with a very competent TE and a serviceable OL. It's old school football: line up and get the ball to your playmakers. Peyton changes the play at the line to get the best matchup. And lo and behold, that is exactly what Herm wants to allow his QB's to do, be able to audible and change plays at the point of attack more often when situations call for it.

I guarantee you if the Chiefs find a very good No 1 WR and block better for Green, we're going to be a much better offense because all of a sudden, putting 8 men in the box isn't going to be as effective...

What stopped Herm from doing it this year?