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3-12-07 Scouts Inc's post-combine board.
1. Calvin Johnson Jr. WR Georgia Tech (1) 2. Joe Thomas Sr. OT Wisconsin (2) 3. JaMarcus Russell Jr. QB LSU (3) 4. Gaines Adams Sr. DE Clemson (7) 5. Adrian Peterson Jr. RB Oklahoma (5) 6. Brady Quinn Sr. QB Notre Dame (6) 7. Alan Branch Jr. DT Michigan (4) 8. LaRon Landry Sr. S LSU (9) 9. Jamaal Anderson Jr. DE Arkansas (8) 10. Amobi Okoye Sr. DT Louisville (10) 11. Levi Brown Sr. OT Penn State (11) 12. Leon Hall Sr. CB Michigan (16) 13. Adam Carriker Sr. DE Nebraska (14) 14. Ted Ginn Jr. Jr. WR Ohio State (12) 15. Dwayne Bowe Sr. WR LSU (19) 16. Marshawn Lynch Jr. RB Cal (18) 17. Lawrence Timmons Jr. OLB Florida State (15) 18. Chris Houston Jr. CB Arkansas (Not Ranked) 19. Jarvis Moss Jr. DE Florida (26) 20. Patrick Willis Sr. ILB Mississippi (23) 21. Dwayne Jarrett Jr. WR USC (13) 22. Aaron Ross Sr. CB Texas (22) 23. Greg Olsen Jr. TE Miami-FL (30) 24. Robert Meachem Jr. WR Tennessee (Not Ranked) 25. Charles Johnson Jr. DE Georgia (21) 26. Anthony Spencer Sr. DE Purdue (28) 27. Reggie Nelson Jr. S Florida (17) 28. Ryan Kalil Sr. C USC (24) 29. Paul Posluszny Sr. OLB Penn State (Not Ranked) 30. Darrelle Revis Jr. CB Pittsburgh (20) Grubbs, Hughes and Rice fell off the top 30 |
Kiper's such a fraud. He now has Alan Branch at #24. ROFL
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1. Calvin Johnson Jr. WR Georgia Tech
Hard worker and team oriented. 2. Joe Thomas Sr. OT Wisconsin Imposing lineman with great quickness. 3. Adrian Peterson Jr. RB Oklahoma Great runner, but has durability issues. 4. JaMarcus Russell Jr. QB LSU Big and strong with a powerful arm. 5. Brady Quinn Sr. QB Notre Dame Poised and at his best under pressure. 6. LaRon Landry Sr. DB LSU Leader on one of the nation's best defenses. 7. Amobi Okoye Sr. DT Louisville Quick, strong and gets penetration into the backfield. 8. Jamaal Anderson Jr. DE Arkansas Gifted athlete and a complete player. 9. Gaines Adams Sr. DE Clemson Dominating ability with his athleticism. 10. Leon Hall Sr. CB Michigan Great anticipation and awareness in coverage. 11. Levi Brown Sr. OT Penn St. Reliable at protecting his QB's blind side. 12. Dwayne Jarrett Jr. WR USC Can create mismatches against smaller cornerbacks. 13. Greg Olsen Jr. TE Miami Complete package: hands, speed and athletic. 14. Adam Carriker Sr. DE Nebraska Runs unbelievably well for 300-pound DE. 15. Dwayne Bowe Sr. WR LSU Runs great routes and is tough in traffic. 16. Marshawn Lynch Jr. RB California A complete back with good size. 17. Steve Smith Sr. WR USC Sure-handed; great playmaker after the catch. 18. Ben Grubbs Sr. OG Auburn Versatile athlete who started career at DT. 19. Ted Ginn Jr. Jr. WR Ohio State Takes a backseat to no one in speed. 20. Lawrence Timmons Jr. LB Florida State Production and consistency are what jump out. 21. Justin Harrell Sr. DT Tennessee Showed great toughness playing through injuries. 22. Patrick Willis Sr. LB Mississippi Tackling machine who is always around the ball. 23. Ryan Kalil Sr. C USC Practicing against great D-linemen pays off. 24. Alan Branch Jr. DT Michigan A space-eater along the interior. 25. Joe Staley Sr. OT Central Michigan Former TE who's developed into a natural left tackle |
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The charts show why it is so difficult to draft a WR in the 1st.
Kiper's rankings of 2-5 are Jarret, Bowe, Smith and then Ginn. Scouts Inc has Ginn, Bowe, Jarret and Smith isn't even in the top 30. |
I go with Mayock, although our opinions differ on the WRs. I wouldn't listen to and trust Kiper's view if ya paid me. Whatever he says means nothing to me.
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Wait so we take a 2nd center over a top 10 DT?
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Vic Ketchman's value board. He's a writer for the Jags website. He's pretty good. I'm putting here because last year he was one of the few guys who gave Tamba respect and had Hali in the top 15. He has McDonald and Ryan Harris higher than just about everyone else, and the two QB's a lot lower than everyone else.
1. Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma Sensational running skills. 2. Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech Big, fast, athletic, smart. 3. Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin Best of the big guys. 4. Alan Branch, DT, Michigan Dominant force inside. 5. Levi Brown, OT, Penn State Light-footed pass-blocker. 6. Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska Disruptive and relentless. 7. Reggie Nelson, S, Florida Best athlete in this draft. 8. Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida Showed in title game what he can be. 9. Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson Good year for defensive ends. 10. Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville You don't find linemen this bright and young. 11. Darrelle Revis, CB, Pitt Top athlete ready for next level. 12. Laron Landry, S, LSU Great size and speed. 13. Jamarcus Russell, QB, LSU I'm not crazy about him but he's a QB. 14. Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame Better on paper than in big games. 15. Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State The perfect football player. 16. Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas Get 'em while they're hot. 17. Ray McDonald, DT, Florida Very underrated performer. 18. Leon Hall, CB, Michigan In the Ty Law mold. 19. Aaron Ross, CB, Texas Nice size for a corner. 20. Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas Outstanding in coverage; just a little small. 21. Jon Beason, LB, Miami Run and hit guy. 22. Lawrence Timmons, LB, Florida State Run and hit guy, too. 23. Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss Tackling machine. 24. Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina Big-time risk/reward. 25. Ted Ginn, WR, Ohio State Speed exceeds production. 26. Marshawn Lynch, RB, California Fantastic production. 27. Ben Grubbs, G, Auburn Classic road-grader. 28. Ryan Harris, OT, Notre Dame Begins next wave of tackles. 29. Tony Hunt, RB, Penn State Pounder with some wiggle and burst. 30. Joe Staley, OT, Central Michigan Runs like a linebacker; true left tackle. 31. Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee Big, fast guy on the outside. 32. Arron Sears, G/T, Tennessee Physical and versatile. Here was his board last year: 1. A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State—The one can't-miss who won't miss. 2. Reggie Bush, RB, USC—Superior athlete who must be used properly. 3. Matt Leinart, QB, USC—Poised pocket-passer who's ready to go. 4. Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State—Great measurables and upside. 5. Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon—Best of the big guys. 6. Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt—Pressure on Titans to pick home boy. 7. Tye Hill, CB, Clemson—Best of the coverage guys. 8. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia—Big, athletic, but he's not Boselli. 9. Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland—Will provide immediate impact. 10. Michael Huff, S, Texas—Takes your breath away, at times. 11. Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State—The hardest-working player I have ever seen. 12. Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa—A true every-downs player. 13. DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis—Might be the next Barry Sanders. 14. Ernie Sims, LB, Florida State—Has a Ray Lewis quality to him. 15. Jimmy Williams, S, Virginia Tech—Big, rugged defender. 16. Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College—Top talent and character. 17. DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama—Underrated play-maker. 18. Manny Lawson, DE, N.C. State—Pass-rushers always at premium. 19. Broderick Bunkley, DT, Florida State—Gotta get the big guys. 20. Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State—Superior size, ability but ACL makes him a risk. 21. Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State—Run on cornerbacks begins. 22. Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami—Not special but a solid guy. 23. Chad Jackson, WR, Florida—Fix his head and you may have something special. 24. Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State—Groomed and ready to go. 25. Winston Justice, OT, USC—Dominant blocker with upside. 26. Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota—Productive, all-around back. 27. Thomas Howard, LB, UTEP—Disruptive run-and-hit play-maker. 28. LenDale White, RB, USC—Pounder and nothing more. 29. Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn—Massive (6-9, 337) blocker. 30. Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia—Frankenstein with soft hands. 31. Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami—Speed tough to pass up. 32. Vince Young, QB, Texas—Great talent but not my kind of QB. |
Here is the new top 150 from GBN (3-15-07)
http://www.gbnreport.com/2007top100.html The top 32... *Calvin Johnson WR 6-4, 235 Georgia Tech Joe Thomas OT 6-8, 305 Wisconsin (X) *Jamarcus Russell QB 6-6, 258 LSU *Adrian Peterson RB 6-1, 217 Oklahoma (X) Brady Quinn QB 6-4, 232 Notre Dame Gaines Adams DE 6-4, 265 Clemson LaRon Landry FS 6-2, 205 LSU *Alan Branch DT 6-6, 330 Michigan *Jamaal Anderson DE 6-5, 280 Arkansas Amobi Okoye DT 6-0, 287 Louisville Levi Brown OT 6-5, 325 Penn State Patrick Willis LB 6-2, 240 Mississippi Adam Carriker DE 6-5, 290 Nebraska *Chris Houston CB 5-10, 180 Arkansas *Ted Ginn WR 6-0, 180 Ohio State (X) Leon Hall CB 5-11,195 Michigan *Reggie Nelson FS 6-1, 195 Florida *Robert Meacham WR 6-2, 205 Tennessee *Marshawn Lynch RB 5-11,215 California (O) Dwayne Bowe WR 6-2, 220 LSU *Dwayne Jarrett WR 6-5, 210 Southern California *Jarvis Moss DE 6-5, 255 Florida *Greg Olsen TE 6-5, 255 Miami *Lawrence Timmons LB 6-3, 230 Florida State *Darrelle Revis CB 5-11,190 Pittsburgh Anthony Spencer DE 6-3, 265 Purdue Paul Posluszny LB 6-1, 238 Penn State Ryan Kalil C 6-4, 291 Southern California Michael Griffin FS 5-11, 195 Texas Ben Grubbs OG 6-3, 315 Auburn Aaron Ross CB 6-0, 195 Texas (O) Arron Sears OG 6-4, 330 Tennessee |
GBN's new top 175...
April 3, 2007 * indicates underclassmen X - indicates player with an injury concern that could affect their ultimate draft status. O - indicates player with a legal or other off-field concern that could affect their ultimate draft status. *Calvin Johnson WR 6-4, 235 Georgia Tech *Jamarcus Russell QB 6-6, 258 LSU *Adrian Peterson RB 6-1, 217 Oklahoma (X) Joe Thomas OT 6-8, 305 Wisconsin (X) Brady Quinn QB 6-4, 232 Notre Dame Gaines Adams DE 6-4, 265 Clemson LaRon Landry FS 6-2, 205 LSU Amobi Okoye DT 6-0, 287 Louisville Levi Brown OT 6-5, 325 Penn State Leon Hall CB 5-11,195 Michigan *Jamaal Anderson DE 6-5, 280 Arkansas *Alan Branch DT 6-6, 330 Michigan Patrick Willis LB 6-2, 240 Mississippi Adam Carriker DE 6-5, 290 Nebraska *Ted Ginn WR 6-0, 180 Ohio State (X) *Marshawn Lynch RB 5-11,215 California (O) *Reggie Nelson FS 6-1, 195 Florida *Greg Olsen TE 6-5, 255 Miami *Robert Meacham WR 6-2, 205 Tennessee *Chris Houston CB 5-10, 180 Arkansas Dwayne Bowe WR 6-2, 220 LSU *Dwayne Jarrett WR 6-5, 210 Southern California *Lawrence Timmons LB 6-3, 230 Florida State *Jarvis Moss DE 6-5, 255 Florida *Darrelle Revis CB 5-11,190 Pittsburgh Paul Posluszny LB 6-1, 238 Penn State Justin Harrell DT 6-3, 305 Tennessee (X) Aaron Ross CB 6-0, 195 Texas (O) Joe Staley OT 6-5, 295 Central Michigan Anthony Spencer DE 6-3, 265 Purdue Ben Grubbs OG 6-3, 315 Auburn Brandon Meriweather FS 5-11, 190 Miami Ryan Kalil C 6-4, 291 Southern California Michael Griffin FS 5-11, 195 Texas *Jon Beason LB 6-0, 230 Miami Craig Davis WR 6-1, 200 LSU *Charles Johnson DE 6-2, 275 Georgia Justin Blalock OG 6-3, 330 Texas Steve Smith WR 6-0, 195 Southern California *Eric Wright CB 5-10, 190 UNLV (O) LaMarr Woodley DE 6-1, 270 Michigan Brian Leonard RB 6-1, 225 Rutgers *Sidney Rice WR 6-2, 200 South Carolina Arron Sears OG 6-4, 330 Tennessee David Harris LB 6-1, 245 Michigan *Zach Miller TE 6-5, 260 Arizona State Marcus McCauley CB 6-1, 200 Fresno State Tony Ugoh OT 6-5, 305 Arkansas *Brandon Siler LB 6-1, 235 Florida Eric Weddle SS 5-11, 200 Utah Victor Abiamiri DE 6-3, 270 Notre Dame *Antonio Pittman RB 5-10, 195 Ohio State *Anthony Gonzalez WR 5-11, !95 Ohio State Tank Tyler DT 6-2, 324 North Carolina State Jonathan Wade CB 5-10, 190 Tennessee Ray McDonald DE 6-3, 282 Florida (X) Aundrae Allison WR 6-0, 197 East Carolina Ilaika Alama-Francis DE 6-5, 255 Hawaii (X) Drew Stanton QB 6-3, 230 Michigan State Kenny Irons RB 5-10, 198 Auburn Josh Wilson CB 5-9, 185 Maryland Jason Hill WR 6-2, 210 Washington State Brandon Mebane DT 6-0, 305 California Lorenzo Booker RB 5-10, 190 Florida State David Irons CB 5-10, 190 Auburn (X) Tim Crowder DE 6-4, 270 Texas H.B. Blades LB 5-11, 236 Pittsburgh Quinn Pitcock DT 6-3, 301 Ohio State Tarell Brown CB 6-0, 200 Texas (O) Tanard Jackson DB 6-0, 190 Syracuse Tony Hunt RB 6-2, 240 Penn State Marcus Thomas DT 6-2, 290 Florida (O) Manny Ramirez OG 6-3, 335 Texas Tech Johnnie Lee Higgins WR 5-11, 185 UTEP Stewart Bradley LB 6-3, 255 Nebraska Paul Williams WR 6-1, 200 Fresno State Daymeion Hughes CB 5-10, 190 California Ben Patrick TE 6-4, 270 Delaware James Marten OT 6-7, 310 Boston College Tim Shaw LB 6-0, 230 Penn State Marshall Yanda OG 6-4, 295 Iowa Aaron Rouse SS 6-4, 220 Virginia Tech Rufus Alexander LB 6-1, 230 Oklahoma Andy Alleman OG 6-4, 305 Akron Quentin Moses DE 6-5, 250 Georgia Doug Free OT 6-6, 305 Northern Illinois *Michael Bush RB 6-2, 250 Louisville (X) Samson Satele C 6-1, 310 Hawaii John Wendling DB 6-1, 220 Wyoming Trent Edwards QB 6-4, 220 Stanford Fred Bennett CB 6-1, 200 South Carolina Dan Bazuin DE 6-3, 270 Central Michigan A.J. Davis CB 5-10, 190 North Carolina State Kevin Kolb QB 6-3, 220 Houston Antonio Johnson DT 6-3, 305 Mississippi State David Clowney WR 6-0, 180 Virginia Tech John Beck QB 6-2, 215 BYU DeShawn Wynn RB 5-11, 235 Florida Justin Durant LB 6-1, 230 Hampton Troy Smith QB 6-0, 215 Ohio State Michael Coe CB 6-0, 190 Alabama State Sabby Piscitelli SS 6-3, 225 Oregon State Buster Davis LB 5-9, 245 Florida State Mike Walker WR 6-2, 210 Central Florida Ryan Harris OT 6-5, 295 Notre Dame Baraka Atkins DE 6-3, 265 Miami Courtney Taylor WR 6-1, 200 Texas A&M Josh Gattis FS 6-1, 210 Wake Forest *Brandon Jackson RB 6-0, 210 Nebraska < style="font-family: arial;"> Mason Crosby PK 6-2, 210 Colorado Travarous Bain CB 6-0, 175 Hampton Stephen Nicholas LB 6-1, 232 South Florida Jay Moore DE 6-4, 275 Nebraska Kenny Scott CB 6-1, 175 Georgia Tech Brian Robison DE 6-4, 275 Texas Michael Johnson FS 6-3, 215 Arizona Anthony Waters LB 6-2, 240 Clemson (X) *Darius Walker RB 5-9, 210 Notre Dame Anthony Arline CB 6-2, 200 Baylor Earl Everett LB 6-2, 235 Florida Josh Beekman OG 6-2, 315 Boston College Scott Chandler TE 6-7, 260 Iowa Desmond Bishop LB 6-2, 240 California Chris Davis WR 5-10, 175 Florida State Corey Hilliard OG 6-5, 315 Oklahoma State Martrez Milner TE 6-4, 260 Georgia Dashon Golden DB 6-1, 200 Washington Chase Pittman DE 6-4, 265 LSU Turk McBride DT 6-3, 277 Tennessee Juwan Simpson LB 6-2, 225 Alabama Kolby Smith RB 5-11, 220 Louisville Jacoby Jones WR 6-2, 195 Lane Garrett Wolfe RB 5-7, 186 Northern Illinois Zak DeOssie LB 6-5, 250 Brown Jay Alford DT 6-3, 285 Penn State *Ryan Smith CB 5-10, 170 Florida Eric Frampton DB 5-11, 210 Washington State Mike Otto OT 6-5, 305 Purdue Mansfield Wrotto OG 6-3, 310 Georgia Tech Noland Burchette DE 6-2, 260 Virginia Tech *Rory Johnson LB 6-1, 235 Mississippi Leroy Harris C 6-2, 310 North Carolina State Kelvin Smith LB 6-2, 240 Syracuse Kareen Brown DT 6-4, 310 Miami Quincy Black LB 6-0, 230 New Mexico *C.J. Gaddis DB 6-1, 205 Clemson Kenny Payne DB 6-1, 215 Louisiana-Monroe < style="font-family: arial;"> Joe Newton TE 6-7, 260 Oregon State Rhema McKnight WR 6-1, 205 Notre Dame (X) Antwan Barnes LB 6-1, 245 Florida International Tim Duckworth OG 6-3, 305 Auburn Jackie Battle RB 6-1, 245 Houston Marvin White DB 6-1, 200 TCU Corey Graham CB 6-0, 195 New Hampshire Ryan McBean DT 6-5, 278 Oklahoma State Doug Datish C 6-4, 295 Ohio State Quentin Culberson LB 6-1, 235 Mississippi State C.J. Ah You DE 6-4, 275 Oklahoma Brandon Frye OT 6-4, 305 Virginia Tech Michael Okwo LB 5-11, 232 Stanford DeAndre Jackson CB 5-11, 195 Iowa State Paul Soliai DT 6-4, 345 Utah Chansi Stuckey WR 5-11, 200 Clemson Cory Anderson FB 6-2, 270 Tennessee Darren Stone DB 6-3, 218 Maine Dustin Fry C 6-3, 315 Clemson Mkristo Bruce DE 6-6, 255 Washington State Laurent Robinson WR 6-2, 200 Illinois State Kevin Boss TE 6-6, 252 Western Oregon Justin Hickman DE 6-1, 260 UCLA Dwayne Wright RB 5-11, 228 Fresno State Reggie Lewis CB 5-10, 200 Florida Michael Allan TE 6-6, 255 Whitworth Antwan Applewhite LB 6-1, 242 San Diego State (DE) *Jon Abbate LB 5-11, 235 Wake Forest |
Mayock's 4-11-07 value board
1. Calvin Johnson Wide Receiver Georgia Tech 2. JaMarcus Russell Quarterback LSU 3. Adrian Peterson Running Back Oklahoma 4. LaRon Landry Safety LSU 5. Joe Thomas Tackle Wisconsin 6. Brady Quinn Quarterback Notre Dame 7. Gaines Adams Defensive End Clemson 8. Adam Carriker Defensive End Nebraska 9. Chris Houston Cornerback Houston 10. Amobi Okoye Defensive Tackle Louisville 11. Darrelle Revis Cornerback Pittsburgh 12. Jamaal Anderson Defensive End Arkansas 13. Ted Ginn Jr. Wide Receiver Ohio State 14. Alan Branch Defensive Tackle Michigan 15. Jon Beason Outside Linebacker Miami FL 16. Patrick Willis Inside Linebacker Ole Miss 17. Marshawn Lynch Running Back California 18. Leon Hall Cornerback Michigan 19. Dwayne Bowe Wide Receiver LSU 20. Brandon Meriweather Safety Miami FL 21. Levi Brown Tackle Penn State 22. Jarvis Moss Defensive End Florida 23. Ryan Kalil Center USC 24. Reggie Nelson Safety Florida 25. Greg Olsen Tight End Miami FL 26. Aaron Ross Cornerback Texas 27. Lawrence Timmons Outside Linebacker Florida State 28. Robert Meachem Wide Receiver Tennessee 29. Joe Staley Tackle Central Michigan 30. Ben Grubbs Tackle Auburn 31. Michael Griffin Safety Texas 32. Anthony Spencer Defensive End Purdue 33. Eric Wright Cornerback UNLV 34. David Harris Inside Linebacker Michigan 35. Justin Blalock Guard Texas 36. Victor Abiamiri Defensive End Notre Dame 37. Justin Harrell Defensive Tackle Tennessee 38. Sidney Rice Wide Receiver South Carolina 39. Paul Posluszny Outside Linebacker Penn State 40. Arron Sears Guard Tennessee 41. Anthony Gonzalez Wide Receiver Ohio State 42. Steve Smith Wide Receiver USC 43. Stewart Bradley Outside Linebacker Nebraska 44. Lorenzo Booker Running Back Florida State 45. LaMarr Woodley Defensive End Michigan 46. Dwayne Jarrett Wide Receiver USC 47. Zach Miller Tight End Arizona State 48. Tim Crowder Defensive End Texas 49. Ray McDonald Defensive Tackle Florida 50. Trent Edwards Quarterback Stanford 51. Brian Leonard Running Back Rutgers 52. Marcus McCauley Cornerback Fresno State 53. Tanard Jackson Cornerback/Safety Syracuse 54. Charles Johnson Defensive End Georgia 55. Josh Wilson Cornerback Maryland 56. John Beck Quarterback BYU 57. Quincy Black Outside Linebacker New Mexico 58. Jason Hill Wide Receiver Washington State 59. Quentin Moses Defensive End Georgia 60. Eric Weddle Safety Utah 61. James Martin Tackle Boston College 62. Ben Patrick Tight End Delaware 63. Sabby Piscitelli Safety Oregon State 64. Daymeion Hughes Cornerback California |
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