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Hammock Parties 12-26-2007 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
who is that?

Gosder Cherilus.

Hammock Parties 12-26-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
Using your logic, Trezelle Jenkins was the best LT to ever play the game. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better, especially when you consider Baker's size.

Here's Trezelle for you...

Trezelle Jenkins
Trezelle Samuel Jenkins
Position: OT/T
Height: 6' 7'' Weight: 323
Born: 3/13/1973, in Chicago, IL, USA
High School: Morgan Park (Chicago, IL)
College: University of Michigan

That's not using my logic whatsoever. This is examining Sam Baker in a vacuum. He's a tiny piece of shit that is not worth a first-round draft pick, ESPECIALLY FOR AN OL HUNGRY TEAM.

Pablo 12-26-2007 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I watch Baker play all the time.....he isn't going to be a great LT, he may need to switch positions. Physically he is maxed out, he's not a terrible pass blocker but he's not a good run blocker..he can be bull rushed...I could see him being physically dominated at the NFL level at times.

Stop using logical deduction to evaluate a player. Where's the Mecca eye-test?

We all know that's the standard for evaluating players.

BigChiefFan 12-26-2007 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
That's not using my logic whatsoever. This is examining Sam Baker in a vacuum. He's a tiny piece of shit that is not worth a first-round draft pick, ESPECIALLY FOR AN OL HUNGRY TEAM.

Okay, 6'5", 312 lbs. is tiny. :rolleyes: Just say you don't like him and move on. Throwing stupid ass shit around like he doesn't look like a LT is absurd, especially when you are comparing him to two of the biggest players in the upcoming draft. He'll take on DEs and LBers, not other LTs.

Hammock Parties 12-26-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
Okay, 6'5", 312 lbs. is tiny.

There is no way Sam Baker is 6-foot-5. Mark my words. He will not be measured at 6-5 at the combine.

Deberg_1990 12-26-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan
Throwing stupid ass shit around

Thats standard Modus operandi for GoTurd. He tries to pass this garbage off as legitimate journalism to inflame the masses. Havent you learned by now??

Hammock Parties 12-26-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Romo_2007
Thats standard Modus operandi for GoTurd. He tries to pass this garbage off as legitimate journalism to inflame the masses. Havent you learned by now??

WTF? It's a post on a message board. I'm not trying to pass it off as anything.

Mecca 12-26-2007 03:46 PM

The reason I don't like this draft...is 16 is to far to drop down for 1. This teams first pick needs to be a pro bowl level player, a core player. Regardless of what position he plays, this team shouldn't be taking Oline be damned they should be taking the best player.

The Bad Guy 12-26-2007 03:51 PM

If we trade out of the 4-5 pick for that package, and draft Sam Baker, I will throw my ****ing new 61 inch TV out the window. That draft is horrible.

BigChiefFan 12-26-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
The reason I don't like this draft...is 16 is to far to drop down for 1. This teams first pick needs to be a pro bowl level player, a core player. Regardless of what position he plays, this team shouldn't be taking Oline be damned they should be taking the best player.

It's dropping down 11 spots and in the process we net additional 2nd and 3rd rounders. Please list the KNOWN Pro Bowlers in the upcoming draft? They're ALL rookies, some translate better than others, but there isn't a guarantee for any team picking. Baker is also slated to go around 16. If we wanted, we could consider Oher at around 20-22 range. That said, I've done the research. The players I picked are all good value for when and where they are picked. The draft is heavy for O-lineman value, but that doesn't mean we ignore the position all together. Most of the other positions are reaches were they are slated.

I would have picked Long at the number 5 overall pick, but I don't honestly believe he will be there. I don't believe Chris Long, McFadden, or Dorsey will be there, either. That's spells out trade down to me.

BigChiefFan 12-26-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy
If we trade out of the 4-5 pick for that package, and draft Sam Baker, I will throw my ****ing new 61 inch TV out the window. That draft is horrible.

Don't sugarcoat it, tell us how you really feel. :rolleyes: Let's see your draft , Mr. Expert.

Mecca 12-26-2007 04:03 PM

If the Chiefs pick 4th or 5th and want to trade down they should only drop 3 or 4 spots at most to still ensure a shot at a top of the line guy.

I'd much rather only get 1 extra first day pick and still get a Sedrick Ellis.

bowener 12-26-2007 04:03 PM

Since I am new here I do not know, but how many times on average does GOATSE say, "mark my words," in any given thread?

bowener 12-26-2007 04:06 PM

Mecca, I think you are a USC fan, is Baker good?

Groves 12-26-2007 04:09 PM

I'd like to try and catch said appliance, let me know.


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