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Amnorix 05-20-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 4759667)
I would have to see an example, I find it extremely difficult to believe that any owner or ownership group in the NFL is not making money.

But how much? If it's making a very small profit -- even a few million a year, then ti's a lousy return on investment and a very thin margin on which to operate a large investment.

I'm not saying owners should spin off billions of profit per year, but they're entitled to a reasonable profit.

Skip Towne 05-20-2008 12:12 PM

I hate Big Football.

raybec 4 05-20-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 4759724)
But how much? If it's making a very small profit -- even a few million a year, then ti's a lousy return on investment and a very thin margin on which to operate a large investment.

I'm not saying owners should spin off billions of profit per year, but they're entitled to a reasonable profit.

I agree they are a business and bottom line is what counts the most, however it's not reasonable to me that with television and radio deals, corporate sponsorship, video games, merchandise etc. that these owners aren't making a lot of money. I hope they don't try to flex their collective muscles and cut off the fans as a result. The players however are in real danger of pricing themselves out of the market. As our beloved Chiefs are currntly showing, a low price unproven player is more attractive than an overpayed under performing veteran.

HemiEd 05-20-2008 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 4759724)
But how much? If it's making a very small profit -- even a few million a year, then ti's a lousy return on investment and a very thin margin on which to operate a large investment.

I'm not saying owners should spin off billions of profit per year, but they're entitled to a reasonable profit.

You sound like the owner of the Bills. I feel so sorry for that man, I was thinking of sending him a donation. He even has a lot of his fanbase believing his BS.

Joe Seahawk 05-20-2008 01:16 PM

Indy gets then 2012 Superbowl. (if there is one)

Amnorix 05-20-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 4759837)
You sound like the owner of the Bills. I feel so sorry for that man, I was thinking of sending him a donation. He even has a lot of his fanbase believing his BS.


Irsay of the Colts has been complaining about this, as have others from time to time.

I don't pretend to know nearly enough about what revenue the NFL teams do and don't share, or their bottom lines, to say whether he is exaggerating his problems. I do understand, however, why Kraft and Jerry Jones get pissed at him for not pursuing revenue-creating opportunities when, for example, the Patriots play in "Gillette Stadium" and the Bills play in "Ralph Wilson Stadium".

HemiEd 05-20-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 4759857)
Irsay of the Colts has been complaining about this, as have others from time to time.

I don't pretend to know nearly enough about what revenue the NFL teams do and don't share, or their bottom lines, to say whether he is exaggerating his problems. I do understand, however, why Kraft and Jerry Jones get pissed at him for not pursuing revenue-creating opportunities when, for example, the Patriots play in "Gillette Stadium" and the Bills play in "Ralph Wilson Stadium".

Exactly.

Redrum_69 05-20-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4759447)
Let me tell you why I suck as a sales man. Let's say I go into a guy's office, let's say he's even remotely interested in buying something. Well then I get all excited. I'm like Jojo the idiot circus boy with a pretty new pet. Now the pet is my possible sale. Hello there pretty little pet, I love you. And then I stoke it, and I pet it, and I massage it. Hehe I love it, I love my little naughty pet, you're naughty. And then I take my naughty pet and I go
[makes ripping noises as he tears apart the roll]
Uuuuuuh. I killed it. I killed my sale. And that's when I blow it. That's when people like us have gotta forge ahead, Helen. Am I right?



is your little pets name Nick Athan by chance?

xbarretx 05-20-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4759447)
Let me tell you why I suck as a sales man. Let's say I go into a guy's office, let's say he's even remotely interested in buying something. Well then I get all excited. I'm like Jojo the idiot circus boy with a pretty new pet. Now the pet is my possible sale. Hello there pretty little pet, I love you. And then I stoke it, and I pet it, and I massage it. Hehe I love it, I love my little naughty pet, you're naughty. And then I take my naughty pet and I go
[makes ripping noises as he tears apart the roll]
Uuuuuuh. I killed it. I killed my sale. And that's when I blow it. That's when people like us have gotta forge ahead, Helen. Am I right?

ok tommy boy ;)

picasso 05-20-2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOATSE (Post 4759447)
Let me tell you why I suck as a sales man. Let's say I go into a guy's office, let's say he's even remotely interested in buying something. Well then I get all excited. I'm like Jojo the idiot circus boy with a pretty new pet. Now the pet is my possible sale. Hello there pretty little pet, I love you. And then I stoke it, and I pet it, and I massage it. Hehe I love it, I love my little naughty pet, you're naughty. And then I take my naughty pet and I go
[makes ripping noises as he tears apart the roll]
Uuuuuuh. I killed it. I killed my sale. And that's when I blow it. That's when people like us have gotta forge ahead, Helen. Am I right?

I love that!!

B_Ambuehl 05-20-2008 03:03 PM

They mainly need to fix a couple of things:

1. Revenue sharing- Big teams don't want to split their revenues with small teams. IMO instead of the the salary cap being based on total football revenue it should be based on an amount that allows the smaller market teams to still remain profitable.

2. Rookie contracts- self explanatory

Right now players get 59% of total revenues. That's way too much IMO.

Personally I hope the owners lock them out. The spoiled bastards can go play in canada, arena league, or be happy with how much the NFL overpays them based on what they're worth elsewhere.

kcxiv 05-20-2008 03:19 PM

Because the Owners not paying their big name players wont make them lose money in the end. Making a few million profit is better then 0 profit at all or losing money. Owners just will not lock them out for to long. No one is going to go see arena league players play in a 80,000 seat stadium. Not going to happen. No way in hell i pay for Sunday ticket to watch scrubs play.


Anyways, adding a 17 game sounds cool. I wouldnt mind an extra game.

B_Ambuehl 05-20-2008 03:27 PM

They could bring in replacement players and still make money. NFL fans root for teams moreso than players. NFL players also don't have the balls to stick with a work stoppage anyway. Back in '87 most of them were crossing picket lines after 3 weeks. That was over 20 years ago. Imagine how these spoiled rotten bastards of today would act after a week without a game check. They'd be begging to come back after a week.

kcxiv 05-20-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 4760117)
They could bring in replacement players and still make money. NFL fans root for teams moreso than players.

Well, this will be one less fan thats for sure. No way i am watching that shit.

Brock 05-20-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 4760117)
They could bring in replacement players and still make money. NFL fans root for teams moreso than players.

Not really.


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