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petegz28 05-26-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4768320)
I glazed over the 8 inch concrete blocks because that completely confuses me. I honestly have no idea what that's all about. If he already has pilings, then why is he installing 8 inch blocks?

This scenario sounds like an endorsement for permits. If dude has no idea what he's doing a drawing and inspection would have solved all these problems. But if you're trying to evade the inspection process, at least have an experienced contractor about whom you would have no concerns or trust issues. If your buddy is moonlighting as a contractor and he can't place the posts properly.... well, you probably don't need me to draw you a map.

I know. I know. :huh:

cdcox 05-26-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 4768314)
Well if I knew how to upload pics here I would show you some. And I agree I don't need 3 and he is trying to squeeze in 4. Nevertheless I have 2 posts 1+ foot closer together than 2 others. That seems to just be not right to me.

And what about these 8 inch concrete blocks? That seems to be a little excessive as well.

My dad built a 3-level deck on the back of his house more than 25 years ago. I helped quite a bit. For the footers, he dug a hole about 12" in diameter and about 12" deep. He poured concrete several inches deep in the hole and let it dry. Then, he poured concrete into KFC buckets and imbedded the post anchors in that. Once those had dried, he sat them on top of the concrete in the holes, then he back filled around the part that came out of the bucket until about 4" were sticking from the ground. The deck is still standing. Overall, I'd prefer a footing that goes into the ground and has a mechanical attachement to the wood, rather than a block sitting on the gound with the post sitting on it.

petegz28 05-26-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 4768329)
My dad built a 3-level deck on the back of his house more than 25 years ago. I helped quite a bit. For the footers, he dug a hole about 12" in diameter and about 12" deep. He poured concrete several inches deep in the hole and let it dry. Then, he poured concrete into KFC buckets and imbedded the post anchors in that. Once those had dried, he sat them on top of the concrete in the holes, then he back filled around the part that came out of the bucket until about 4" were sticking from the ground. The deck is still standing. Overall, I'd prefer a footing that goes into the ground and has a mechanical attachement to the wood, rather than a block sitting on the gound with the post sitting on it.

Ok I should clarify. I have 4 holes with 36 inches of concrete in them with an 8 inch block on top of that.

Brock 05-26-2008 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 4768332)
Ok I should clarify. I have 4 holes with 36 inches of concrete in them with an 8 inch block on top of that.

What's the block for?

petegz28 05-26-2008 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4768334)
What's the block for?

The post will sit in a footing on top of the block.

Phobia 05-26-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 4768332)
Ok I should clarify. I have 4 holes with 36 inches of concrete in them with an 8 inch block on top of that.

We think you have 36" of concrete in them but they were existing - so if the last guy short cut it, by trusting his work you're putting your faith in somebody else's hands - somebody you've never met and who probably was the lowest bid for some builder.

This whole situation is bunk. If it were me, I'd bring my sledge and start with a blank slate.

For the record, Pete emailed me pictures. My reluctance to second guess somebody else is now gone.

Phobia 05-26-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 4768338)
The post will sit in a footing on top of the block.

Except.... Heh - look at this picture. If he doesn't hit the circle in this concrete everything else is going to crack away....

Valiant 05-26-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 4768314)
Well if I knew how to upload pics here I would show you some. And I agree I don't need 3 and he is trying to squeeze in 4. Nevertheless I have 2 posts 1+ foot closer together than 2 others. That seems to just be not right to me.

And what about these 8 inch concrete blocks? That seems to be a little excessive as well.

There is an attachment file that looks like a paperclip.. Took me months to find it..

Your welcome..

Valiant 05-26-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4768320)
I glazed over the 8 inch concrete blocks because that completely confuses me. I honestly have no idea what that's all about. If he already has pilings, then why is he installing 8 inch blocks?

This scenario sounds like an endorsement for permits. If dude has no idea what he's doing a drawing and inspection would have solved all these problems. But if you're trying to evade the inspection process, at least have an experienced contractor about whom you would have no concerns or trust issues. If your buddy is moonlighting as a contractor and he can't place the posts properly.... well, you probably don't need me to draw you a map.

You glazed over a 8" what??? Ohh... blocks, I thought you said...nevermind..

Phobia 05-26-2008 02:20 PM

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Here's the picture of what Pete is describing.

Does anybody else feel confident this deck is going to be done correctly?

cdcox 05-26-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4768334)
What's the block for?

Looks something like this where the concrete block is serving as #2 in the picture. My complaints would be 1) I'd rather have a solid peir (stronger than a concrete block and 2) does the post base attach to the concrete block?

I'm also guessing that the holes dad dug were wider and deeper than I described them. It's been a loooong time.

Phobia 05-26-2008 02:22 PM

Pete - there's a dozen bits of evidence in the 04 picture that tells me that the guy is clueless. Don't waste another moment of time.

cdcox 05-26-2008 02:23 PM

Well, based on the pictures Phobia posted, never mind.

Valiant 05-26-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4768346)
Here's the picture of what Pete is describing.

Does anybody else feel confident this deck is going to be done correctly?

Am I a meth user or not?? Need more info on how drugged out I am...

|Zach| 05-26-2008 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4768299)
Went with the low bid.

LMAO


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