I figured somebody would. My example is clearly stated in the article above. I hate to say it but anyone that buys in to it is cheating themselves and the future of America. The key to opportunity and knowledge in America is Hard Work... not a free ride. We are only going to make ourselves less intelligent if we continue to coddle. The idea that minorities don't have the same opportunities as any one else these days is dangerous, irresponsible, and outdated.

...and I apologize for offending you.

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no one complains about being in the pink
in fact they get down right giddy

Not saying we don't have the same opportunities in some departments (schooling) but within the workplace, you're not looking at facts here... You're basically telling me that only 5% (generous number) of minorities are competent enough to lead fortune 500 corps. If that's how you feel then that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

Having said that, since 95% of our fortune 500 CEO's and top level execs are white, how else would you ensure fair practices that a minority gets an equal chance at a position?

Again... Show me an example where a minority had preferential treatment over someone else while being under qualified for a position.

~No matter how ignorant it is.

I don't know about AA, but those dudes in the thread starter are pretty freakin' stupid. I would love to have seen their faces when someone explained what is a black hole.

It is a very tough situation.

I think the more the older generation leaves the work place, the more chances there will be for advancement for people of different ethnicities and gender. My parents, who are in there 70's, are very old school in that regard.


People, regardless of background, have to realize that it takes hard work to be successful and there aren't any real short cuts to get there.

I agree... but usually it is the HARD WORKING minority getting the AA break. I know you may not want to hear it but do you know that a minority has to do things almost twice as hard as a white person in order to get a chance?

We have to work double hard at almost everything from speech to grades to appearance to even working twice as hard to prove :rolleyes: we're just as responsible or competent as our white counterparts. Why? Because we're stereotyped as being dumb, low lives that are incapable of intellect or intelligence. So until you can devise a system that fairly levels the playing field AA is justifiable. But then again... if the system was fair then we wouldn't need AA.

I agree that it'll eventually go away with the elderly but in the meantime AA is paving the way to make it to where future bosses will no longer consider skin color in hiring practices just like we should've overlooked the fact that Hillary was a FEMALE presidential candidate (which is the way it should be).

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I know what you're saying, but the facts simply don't bear that out. Yes, it is changing for the better, and I long for the day when we don't need it, but we still do at the moment. The higher up you get, the more it's about WHO you know and not what you know, and that's an area where minorities simply don't have any chance. They haven't been in the upper echelons of business long enough to develop those kinds of relationships.

You're absolutely right that the basis of this country is working hard to succeed. But when people actively block minorities' rights to equal and fair employment, there's a problem. Doing that is contrary to the principles of this country. It's why we needed Griggs vs. Duke Power Company to regulate hiring practices. It's why we needed Gratz vs. Bollinger and Grutter vs. Bollinger to define what is appropriate use of AA and what is not.

I don't understand this. You have to work twice as hard because minorities are stereotyped?

check DMV and other gov't agencies....

I would agree with you on this, there are times in which that does happen and that shouldn't.

I think you would be hard pressed to truly prove that there isn't a level playing field. There are steps that can be taken in order to do so. Taking an active part in education of our children. There are success stories all over the place where kids have come from down and out situations and have through hard work, sometimes inspite of their parents, and have become very successful. Making sure that the children know what is expected and what will not be tolerated. Unfortunately, the infrastructure doesn't really like supporting parents in this manner. There are people that have to work twice as hard because of thought to be limitations whether it be ethnicity, gender or economic background.


But if a person of a different background isn't given the job on basis of qualifications, it shouldn't be labeled as racist. If it truly was, then it should be dealt with swiftly and strongly.

I don't agree. Sure, there may be a small percentage of places and people left nowadays that may make it more difficult on minorities. But I don't think that is the case most of the time. I think that hardest thing to change is that perception.

Do the other 95% of non-whites desire to be CEOs of Fortune 500 companies?

You just gotta love how this guy can't even admit his stupid mistake. :shake:

Wow. What a fucking idiot.