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ILChief 08-21-2008 01:57 PM

good thing we let Mitchell and Fujita walk.

Deberg_1990 08-21-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4933075)
Nothing will change with this team until they do a full out overall major super house cleaning. The culture at One Arrowhead Drive is a losing one, and that needs to be changed. That can only be done with new blood; a new direction.

Maybe the smartest post ive ever seen on here.

RustShack 08-21-2008 02:03 PM

Harris will make the roster and be starting again when its all said and done...

FAX 08-21-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4933075)
Nothing will change with this team until they do a full out overall major super house cleaning. The culture at One Arrowhead Drive is a losing one, and that needs to be changed. That can only be done with new blood; a new direction.

Well said, Mr. Vanilla Thunder. It begins and ends with Clarkie. At this point, our problems are systemic. This linebacker situation is just another symptom of Peterson's disease. The franchise is dysfunctional. We fire guys who are better than the guys we're starting now and pick up new guys who can't even make the team when the starting guys suck worse than the guys we had before. It's insane.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones 08-21-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4933090)
Maybe the smartest post ive ever seen on here.

It's so true though. With all due respect to the Hunts, what the **** kind of owner allows a GM to stay with his team for 19 years with no real success, but ticket sales? The NFL is both about winning Super Bowls, and business, but it's obvious to the people that possess common sense that it's more about business as far as the Chiefs go.

You keep your tickets, you keep buying merchandise...then the status quo remains status quo.

The only way for fans to get their voice in is to not buy tickets, not buy merchandise. But that will not ever be the case. We are in football hell because we love our team so much that we won't ever say no to a friend that says, "hey man, I got an extra ticket, you wanna go? 80 bucks." Or say no to that new hat or jersey that your favorite player possesses when you go to the mall.

We really are in hell. Most of the teams are though, except for the usuals, because they know how to draft, how to be selective with free agents, etc. They have the right people running the show. We, obviously, don't.

And until they show different, the fans have the right to not believe in what Herm is trying to do, until they show it on the field.

It's the Show Me State, bitches. Show us.


sorry for the rant

Deberg_1990 08-21-2008 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4933107)
It's so true though. With all due respect to the Hunts, what the **** kind of owner allows a GM to stay with his team for 19 years with no real success, but ticket sales? The NFL is both about winning Super Bowls, and business, but it's obvious to the people that possess common sense that it's more about business as far as the Chiefs go.

You keep your tickets, you keep buying merchandise...then the status quo remains status quo.

The only way for fans to get their voice in is to not buy tickets, not buy merchandise. But that will not ever be the case. We are in football hell because we love our team so much that we won't ever say no to a friend that says, "hey man, I got an extra ticket, you wanna go? 80 bucks." Or say no to that new hat or jersey that your favorite player possesses when you go to the mall.

We really are in hell. Most of the teams are though, except for the usuals, because they know how to draft, how to be selective with free agents, etc. They have the right people running the show. We, obviously, don't.

And until they show different, the fans have the right to not believe in what Herm is trying to do, until they show it on the field.

It's the Show Me State, bitches. Show us.


sorry for the rant

No need to be sorry. I agree 100%

I just hope Clark wakes up soon. Chiefs fans will always be Chiefs fans. Of course they will buy the tickets and gear. It doesnt matter who the GM is. So why do the Hunts continue to hold on to this fossil?

Coogs 08-21-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 4933103)
We fire guys who are better than the guys we're starting now and pick up new guys who can't even make the team when the starting guys suck worse than the guys we had before. It's insane.

FAX

Who was the DC who wanted all of these changes made?

FAX 08-21-2008 02:18 PM

Clarkie said all the right things last off-season. The problem is that he seems to be backing off his expectation that we compete for a playoff spot this year. I'm certain that modification in his position is due to reports from marketing that ticket sales are improving.

Mr. Vanilla Thunder is right. From top to bottom, this organization seems to have been more concerned about the success of the "business" than the success of the "team". I don't really understand that. It seems to me that, if you're fielding a playoff caliber team year after year, the business would naturally thrive.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones 08-21-2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4933120)
No need to be sorry. I agree 100%

I just hope Clark wakes up soon. Chiefs fans will always be Chiefs fans. Of course they will buy the tickets and gear. It doesnt matter who the GM is. So why do the Hunts continue to hold on this fossil?

IMO, they hold onto Carl because he is a good business man, and he did bring the Chiefs back from the dead when he was hired in 89 and brought Marty in. Carl should've resigned with Marty in 98, then I don't think fans would be too hard on Carl or the Hunts.

Marty knew his time was up, I hated him as a coach, but at least he knew it was time to go. Carl is too comfy where he's at.

StcChief 08-21-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 4933100)
Harris will make the roster and be starting again when its all said and done...

maybe roster hopefully not starting :grr:

FAX 08-21-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 4933125)
Who was the DC who wanted all of these changes made?

Point, Mr. Coogs. Was it our resident mad German who was responsible for canning Fujita, though? Or, was it Robinson? I can't remember. Nevertheless, if our defense suffers this year, it may well be the last we'll see of Guntheriffic.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones 08-21-2008 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 4933132)
Clarkie said all the right things last off-season. The problem is that he seems to be backing off his expectation that we compete for a playoff spot this year. I'm certain that modification in his position is due to reports from marketing that ticket sales are improving.

Mr. Vanilla Thunder is right. From top to bottom, this organization seems to have been more concerned about the success of the "business" than the success of the "team". I don't really understand that. It seems to me that, if you're fielding a playoff caliber team year after year, the business would naturally thrive.

FAX

I know. Doe's Clark think the Patriots are just "getting by" with their constant Super Bowl appearances lmao!!!

You win, you get more pub, more money, everything.

The Chiefs are good at marketing and getting their fans to the games, but they are not good at putting a consistent winner on the field.

RealSNR 08-21-2008 02:23 PM

Okay, geniouses out there who know what the problem is. Tell me what we do RIGHT NOW to fix the situation.

We've got unplayable LBs backing up a starting unit that contains one pretty decent player and two other "meh".

What do we do?

Coogs 08-21-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 4933143)
Point, Mr. Coogs. Was it our resident mad German who was responsible for canning Fujita, though? Or, was it Robinson? I can't remember. Nevertheless, if our defense suffers this year, it may well be the last we'll see of Guntheriffic.

FAX


He went to the Cowboys in 2005. That would make it under Guns watch. My guess is that is when Bell came in as well.

Sure-Oz 08-21-2008 02:27 PM

Scanlon not on the roster?


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