when you lose 11 games in a row, and possibly 12 after this week? I think they will lose to Atlanta. I don't care who you are, you're FIRED! At least deserve to be? This league is about results, and Herms results are losses.

Just focusing on the reality part of it.

Make Kuharich the interim GM

Have Herm drawn and quartered in the Red Reserved lot.

Make Gailey your HC, Price the OC, keep Gunther til the end of the year.

At the end of the year, fire every single mother****er in that entire building.

Carl is tied to Herm ...... they will be leaving together.


whenever that is

A small amount of vengeance.

Hell Yeah!:clap:

Herm and Carl are to blame, but I really think the Chiefs have really bad ownership. Pretty much sums up the reason why they're bad?

The problem is, the way I look at it, I think Clark is a nice guy but he is using the same tactics like his father. His father treated his execs like family and was incredibly loyal.

It's just a bad omen for success when you intertwine that type of mentality with business. Nobody and I mean nobody deserves a job for 20 years as a GM when your an underachieveing GM. Clark needs to change his mentality, and focus more on the results then treating Carl like family. He needs to be more schrude.

*If this season doesn't axe Herm and Carl then I don't know what will? Especially when we win 1 game.

I preached for a long time afterwards how that game proved Herm would never improve with the talent... even when we had the chance to beat someone, his decision making came down to winning the game on the last play.. despite Peyton f***ing Manning being on the other sideline.

However, maybe it's just a situation of digging your own grave.... had we fired Herm after last season, we would have been going from all offense to all defense to (hopefully) something in between all within a few years; and zero continuity. Eh, I'm torn on that one. I'd like to see him go, but don't want to get into a death spiral of changing coaches every couple of years.

On one hand I really don't think Herm will ever win more than one or two playoff games in the same season... OTOH, we won't be talking playoffs for at least two more seasons, so as long as there's some improvement this year, it's not like we'd do much better with any other coach.

I'm pretty much guessing when they die.

Though I'm beginning to believe that Peterson is immortal.


"There can be only ONE GM for the Chiefs!"

Whatcha gonna do Hulkster when Carl runs wild on youuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!

We owe the Hunt family nothing, that's for sure. They've made millions off of us and given us a shit product for years. Lamar was a nice man, but a complacent owner who was over the hill in the modern NFL. Clark hasn't done anything other than fill a suit so far.

The problem starts at the top, and trickles down from there.

This is why I don't understand why fans go to the games? But what kills me is when fans say they don't deserve this? Well, sure you do? You go watch a bad product and support it.

Sorry for taking a shot at the fans here, but Im just trying to speak in a sensible way.

Because there's nothing better to do on a Sunday during football season in Kansas City?

"Don't panic; we're not mathmatically eliminated from the Playoffs; and only 0-1 in the division. 2 Game packages now available at kcchiefs.com"/Carl/Clark

[QUOTE=RedBull;5038267]This is why I don't understand why fans go to the games? QUOTE]

Good point. I think it's because we've been brainwashed for so many years that we're close; a Chiefs game hase developed into an "Event". and for most of the last 20 years it has been somewhat warranted.

I think they still go because of habit. Which is sad.

The really sad part is the feeling is mutual

The culture is definitely changing from the "support at all costs" Cubs mentality, which is a good thing, IMO. Chiefs fans take so much pride for being great fans, I think a lot of people lose sight of the fact that it's a business, and if you're not being entertained, you should spend your disposable income elsewhere.

What are they going to do, leave? :Poke: