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Micjones 10-29-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5163719)
I'm certain he isn't.

We must be the home of the most inept position coaches in the NFL.
We need a new coaches for the OL, DL, QB, and LB's.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-29-2008 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5163710)
Indeed.

I'm not sure that Krumrie's that guy.

I can guarantee you that he's not the guy. He's a terrible coach that people gravitate to just because he's a ****ing loudmouth.

I wish I could find a clip of him breaking his leg in the Super Bowl...:D

SAUTO 10-29-2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5163714)
It seriously looks like he's taking about to take a shit.

the first photo looks like faneca has a hold of his jersey pulling him down

suds79 10-29-2008 11:08 AM

Well while I'm not a fan of DTs who are hovering around 300 lbs, that's a little light for my taste, we know the guy has the skill set to be a dominate player. Otherwise, every scout out there wouldn't of thought that this guy could be the most talented player in last year's draft.

So I'm sure he'll come around in time.

But I think getting rid of Gun & Tim Krumrie would be a good start in the off-season.

Hey with any luck, Herm will be gone which will take care of all the others. :D

milkman 10-29-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5163754)
the first photo looks like faneca has a hold of his jersey pulling him down

That may well be, but the thing is, once Dorsey lowers his head, he loses vision, and gives the O-Lineman leverage advantage by default.

KCUnited 10-29-2008 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5163754)
the first photo looks like faneca has a hold of his jersey pulling him down

If you watch the play live, Faneca took on his initial block, pushed him away and took him on the second time. I looked like an obvious rook vs. a vet, which is ok because thats what it was, but he got owned.

PhillyChiefFan 10-29-2008 11:10 AM

Those pics depress me to no end.

I can't believe the size of the running gaps that the Oline blew open. You could drive a Mack truck though the lanes. There is NO penetration or rush whatsoever.

Why did they not run the ball down our fucking throats?

SAUTO 10-29-2008 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5163769)
That may well be, but the thing is, once Dorsey lowers his head, he loses vision, and gives the O-Lineman leverage advantage by default.

i can see that too. hopefully he gets someone to teach him and all these young linemen how to play

Chiefnj2 10-29-2008 11:15 AM

Hopefully his knees will be able to hold up.

DaKCMan AP 10-29-2008 11:16 AM

Glenn Dorsey through 7 games: 18 tackles, 14 solo, 0 sacks

The rest of these guys rookie year, 16 game:

Warren Sapp - 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int
Albert Haynesworth, 30 tackles, 21 solo, 1 sack
Tommie Harris - 43 tackles, 28 solo, 3.5 sacks
Casey Hampton - 22 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack
Kris Jenkins - 34 tackles, 27 solo, 2 sacks
Marcus Stroud - 25 tackles, 21 solo, 0 sacks

Some guys take off right away (Kevin Williams, John Henderson) but others take some time to develop.

beach tribe 10-29-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5163804)
Hopefully his knees will be able to hold up.

There ain't nothing wrong with his damn knees. He's just a rookie.

PhillyChiefFan 10-29-2008 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 5163771)
If you watch the play live, Faneca took on his initial block, pushed him away and took him on the second time. I looked like an obvious rook vs. a vet, which is ok because thats what it was, but he got owned.

So true, size is no substitute for good technique and it takes time to develop it. But I agree, at 7 games in Dorsey should have been told by his line coach that his technique was off and to get his head up.

The difference is monumentous between college and pros. And Faneca has definatly been around the block. It takes time to develop the skills to compete and dominate in the NFL.

I, for one, am not ready to give up on Glenn Dorsey, or any of our players from the last draft class, it is far too soon and they haven't had a coach worth a sh*t.

blueballs 10-29-2008 11:17 AM

Who got the double team

PhillyChiefFan 10-29-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5163815)
Glenn Dorsey through 7 games: 18 tackles, 14 solo, 0 sacks

The rest of these guys rookie year, 16 game:

Warren Sapp - 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int
Albert Haynesworth, 30 tackles, 21 solo, 1 sack
Tommie Harris - 43 tackles, 28 solo, 3.5 sacks
Casey Hampton - 22 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack
Kris Jenkins - 34 tackles, 27 solo, 2 sacks
Marcus Stroud - 25 tackles, 21 solo, 0 sacks

Some guys take off right away (Kevin Williams, John Henderson) but others take some time to develop.


Good post, I was wondering how all the greats fared their first seasons. Good to see he is on pace with those names.

SAUTO 10-29-2008 11:19 AM

and how many people around here wanted NOTHING to do with faneca?


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