Yup.

THere's more than just ticket sales. When fans don't show up, they buy less parking, less jerseys, less t-shirts and hats, and a lot less beer/hot dogs/bbq at the game. I'm sure a strong message has been sent that the fans are not happy.

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Good point.

I'm with ya, ny.

I'd rather see someone younger with some fresh ideas in there.

or we could hire Cowher and keep mediocrity rolling and the true fans happy?


Someone fresh? Someone other than a branch off the Carl/Marty Tree? Blasphemy I say!

How dare you question the true fans quest for mediocrity!

It's not about this year's season ticket sales, it's about next year's. Suppose we had gotten blown out these last 4 games with r2p2 -- I'd have to think there'd be a major hit to season tickets. I don't know if this recent respectability is enough, but I'd guess yes.

Fellas, there has not been anything "fresh" in football since the invention of the forward pass.

My blackout point is just that things haven't reached critical mass yet. They need to keep the 'Fire head coach scapegoat' card in case they really need it. The way it goes these days the Offensive Coordinator is the initial scapegoat and then when things get really bad the coach or GM. If they fire Herm this year, or right after this year, and they stink next year then what can they do? Fire the next coach?
This way if they stink next year they can fire Herm and buy themselves more time and retain some season ticket holders.
I don't think Herm deserves to be fired because of this year though. They (the Chiefs)seem to have been on board with his plan to go young, rebuild, etc. so I don't see why they would fire Herm now. If they go 1-5 to start next year, or if they go 4-12, or don't have a .500 record for the second half of the year then I think they could be justified in firing him.
I'm of the opinion they were too drastic with their rebuilding process. That tells me that Herm wasn't very worried about losing his job this year. Obviously, things can change but it seems to be he had confidence that management knew what was in store.

I'm thinking they are definately helping Herm to keep his job. Don't think they are helping Gunther though.

Oddly enough, I almost wonder if Herm's changing a bit. Things I read this week, it seems like he's starting to be willing to let the O open up a bit. Even with LJ back, we didn't see the patent Herm up the middle stuff like we have in the past. 'Course it may be that he's been feeling the crunch and has been told to back off the conservativism.

Im surprised the NFL hasnt rewritten the contracts so that blackouts get to be played on NFLN. Just one more added reason the cable companies will have to pick it up.

IMO, Herm's job was never in doubt. Clark was always gonna have him back next year regardless of the record.

Herm will not win again-he cannot make adjustments at halftime, motivate his team and makes stoopid calls that lose games....

that dipshit needs to go!

I'm not sure what kind of storm could take down The Wreck of the Edwards Fitzgerald.

He also gets outcoached in nearly every game.