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Mecca 12-23-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5324328)
I agree with Tiecher. DE DE DE DE, LB's then Oline.

Well that really puts it in perspective.

kcxiv 12-23-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324329)
Well that really puts it in perspective.

Hey, you have your opinions. I have mine. You don't agree with me, thats fine. I want to fix that defense first. I think the offense is halfassed ok right now.

If you dont have a decent defense. Tom Brady couldnt make the Chiefs win a superbowl.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5324332)
Hey, you have your opinions. I have mine. You don't agree with me, thats fine. I want to fix that defense first. I think the offense is halfassed ok right now.

If you dont have a decent defense. Tom Brady couldnt make the Chiefs win a superbowl.

You sure that is what the new GM and HC want to do?

Mecca 12-23-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5324332)
Hey, you have your opinions. I have mine. You don't agree with me, thats fine. I want to fix that defense first. I think the offense is halfassed ok right now.

If you dont have a decent defense. Tom Brady couldnt make the Chiefs win a superbowl.

It's a hell of alot easier to rebuild a defense than it is an offense, specifically find the QB..

Regardless of how long the Chiefs defense has been bad, any competent person could rebuild a defense in a short period of time.

kcxiv 12-23-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5324335)
You sure that is what the new GM and HC want to do?

I dont know what they want to do. THey can do whatever they want. I just want the defense fixed. I dont know about anyone else around here, but growing up watching the Chiefs in the 90's it was all defense and when people came to play the Chiefs, everyone knew the game was going to be tough because the Defense kept the games close. Now when a team comes to KC, its like, someone is going to have a career day.

I dont know about you, but ia m sick and tired of giving up 500 yards a game.

Mecca 12-23-2008 06:45 PM

We still didn't win anything in the 90's...back then I was sick and tired of getting beat by the teams that had QB's.

Chiefaholic 12-23-2008 06:45 PM

Top Pick...
 
Drafting this high, you HAVE to get your franchise QB. We already had a frachise DE in Allen, where did that land us? Pick up your QB, give him a year to develope chemistry and learn the offense, then pick up a stud at DE next year. Which guy is more likely to plug and play, a QB or DE?

kcxiv 12-23-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324337)
It's a hell of alot easier to rebuild a defense than it is an offense, specifically find the QB..

Regardless of how long the Chiefs defense has been bad, any competent person could rebuild a defense in a short period of time.

If it was that easy, the Chiefs wouldnt be horrible for almost 10 years now at defense. Remember GRob did have a top 5 defense i beleive while being the DC in Denver. Gunthar has failed miserably no doubt, but i think the bigger holes is DE and Linebackers for us right now.

kcxiv 12-23-2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 5324342)
Drafting this high, you HAVE to get your franchise QB. We already had a frachise DE in Allen, where did that land us? Pick up your QB, give him a year to develope chemistry and learn the offense, then pick up a stud at DE next year. Which guy is more likely to plug and play, a QB or DE?

If Stafford is there, sure you take a chance, if he's not then what? Is Bradford worth the risk? is he even coming out?


I do know that we have 9 sacks this season in 15 games. The record is 11 set by some team that had a 14 game season and we are about to break that record. lol We put absolutely no pressure on the quarterbacks EVER.

Last year we had no ****ing offense, we scored 13.3 points per game. How many 3 and outs did we have? At least this year we can actually put up a few points. We are at 19 points per game this season, i dont know how many after Tyler took over, but before he was out there, it was worse then that. I think about 10.

RustShack 12-23-2008 06:46 PM

BPA. I'm OK with reaching one or two spots for a big need... but other than that BPA. Bring me Stafford god damn it!

Chiefaholic 12-23-2008 06:46 PM

And just a heads up... I like Thigpen, I really do. I just don't think he has the mental and physical qualities it takes to go all the way to the big show.

RustShack 12-23-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5324345)
If Stafford is there, sure you take a chance, if he's not then what? Is Bradford worth the risk? is he even coming out?

Bradford is not worth the pick unless you are looking into drafting a sure fire bust.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324341)
We still didn't win anything in the 90's...back then I was sick and tired of getting beat by the teams that had QB's.

I was sick and tired of getting hammered by teams when we knocked out the starter and the backup came in and just rolled us!

Mecca 12-23-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5324343)
If it was that easy, the Chiefs wouldnt be horrible for almost 10 years now at defense. Remember GRob did have a top 5 defense i beleive while being the DC in Denver. Gunthar has failed miserably no doubt, but i think the bigger holes is DE and Linebackers for us right now.

The Chiefs have been run by several incompetent people since the year 2000...think about it. From the top down to the defensive coaches just full of morons.

A defense can quickly be rebuilt, general rule of thumb is it takes longer to build an offense than a defense.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5324339)
I dont know what they want to do. THey can do whatever they want. I just want the defense fixed. I dont know about anyone else around here, but growing up watching the Chiefs in the 90's it was all defense and when people came to play the Chiefs, everyone knew the game was going to be tough because the Defense kept the games close. Now when a team comes to KC, its like, someone is going to have a career day.

I dont know about you, but ia m sick and tired of giving up 500 yards a game.

I agree, I want it fixed, but I also am very tired of the reject has beens that were so called proven come through here and just give us ass for 3-4 years... I want to be like the others that win championships, I want a franchise QB in round 1 and then fix the defense with FA and draft...

Sadly, this defense is no closer to being fixed then the day Herm arrived...


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