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RustShack 12-25-2008 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5327289)
Matt Cassel and Antonio Bryant would be at the top my list.
:doh!:

bigdreams1 12-25-2008 02:37 PM
FA:
Vilma, Andrews, Suggs
Draft:
Rey Maulauga
Herman Johnson
Antoine Caldwell

I believe that fills all the holes
RT: Andrews
RG: Johnson
C: Caldwell

DL: Suggs, Dorsey, Tyler, Hali

LB: Vilma, Maulauga, Johnson

PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN...Hunt did say he was gonna spend some dough in FA

RustShack 12-25-2008 03:47 PM
Isn't Vilma a MLB? Is Rey really worth the 2nd pick?

kcxiv 12-25-2008 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5327292)
:rolleyes:

Right, cause, who needs defense?

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/d...rmeil1_all.jpg
I am not understanding this. People mostly want offense offense. I am one of the few screaming defense over here. I Think Vermeil spoiled everyone with offense. lol

kcchiefsus 12-25-2008 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5327049)
Len Dawson was 40 years ago. The NFL changes. At one point the draft was almost 20 rounds and there was no free agency.

The fact of the matter is that with the increase in the cap and the use of the franchise tag, top tier players don't get away. All the players who hit the open market have severe flaws in their game or huge personal question marks surrounding them with so much associated risk that the increase in the size of the contracts far outweighs the potential reward of signing them.

Draft your core players, let the nonessential guys walk in FA, and collect compensatory draft picks. Use the savings to lock up the big guys.

Look at all the big free agent prizes of the last several years. T.O., Nate Clements, Steve Hutchinson, Leonard Davis, Joey Porter, Plaxico Burress, Justin Smith. All those players either play complementary positions (Hutch, Davis), are complementary players (Smith) and got paid huge cash, or are nutjobs. The one exception is Clements who got a 70 million dollar contract and has done nothing to justify it.

This team has built itself through FA for the last 15 years and hasn't won a playoff game because of it. At least the Chiefs of about 89-94 were built through the draft, save for Saleamua and Montana. Once KC's core draft picks from the end of the Steadman era dried up, so did the team.
Joey Porter? The same Joey Porter who is leading the AFC in sacks? Yeah, what a waste.

kcxiv 12-25-2008 04:33 PM
Also wasnt Abraham a FA? dude has 16.5 sacks and has his team in the play offs as well. hehe

I think you can go for a top tier player, but you have to be smart about it and dont get a dud.

LiL stumppy 12-25-2008 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5327041)
Says who? You ascribe to a subjective orthodoxy that you assume all fans must by needs follow. Chiefs fans should note that Lenny Dawson was the equivalent to a FA and he was THE cornerstone of the Kansas City Chiefs to include 2 SB appearances.

If we aren't at the point to add top tier players ($32 mil under the cap) then who is?
Exactly. People who don't believe you can pick up good players in FA are idiots. We can pick many, young and old players up next year in FA that can help is for the the next 3 years or more.

milkman 12-25-2008 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5327333)
I am not understanding this. People mostly want offense offense. I am one of the few screaming defense over here. I Think Vermeil spoiled everyone with offense. lol
No, what you don't understand is that no one wants to ignore the defense.

But what some of us want is a complete team that can be a SB contender for years, and the way to do that is to find the best players that can make that a reality.

For some that means that while defense is a priority, we also understand that you can not simply draft or sign defensive players to fill a need.

You get the best players that you can.
You find value at every position on the team possible.

Mecca 12-25-2008 05:22 PM
Like was mentioned earlier, a top tier free agent is not going to sign with the Chiefs unless they make him the highest paid player in the league. Those players can get paid by the good teams, they aren't just going to pick a bad one instead.

Antonio Bryant is the kind of player to look at, he had a breakout year and has all the physical tools, I don't think he'll get giant money either.

eazyb81 12-25-2008 05:27 PM
It'd be nice to hire DeCosta and have him convince Suggs to sign here.

JohnnyV13 12-25-2008 05:36 PM
You CANNOT pick up cornerstone players in FA. Priest Holmes was really over-rated and actually useless. Casey Weigman was a terrible player who was carried by Brian Waters and Will Shields. Marcus Allen actually hurt the Chiefs. His presence set back this franchise for over a decade. We picked up Rich Gannon in FA, thank God we got rid of that loser before he harmed the team. James Hasty is simply a Chiefs planet myth, created by one play where Marty Schottenheimer kissed his bald head after he intercepted the raiders to produce a touchdown in overtime. Hasty actually ruined the secondary and disrupted team harmony. I can tell few here remember the disaster that was Glenn Parker and how he ruined our offensive line in 1997 and 1998.

Forget about free agents.They're worthless!

Mecca 12-25-2008 05:39 PM
The FA market is completely different now than it was at the times guys like Hasty got into it...

Hootie 12-25-2008 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 5327385)
You CANNOT pick up cornerstone players in FA. Priest Holmes was really over-rated and actually useless. Casey Weigman was a terrible player who was carried by Brian Waters and Will Shields. Marcus Allen actually hurt the Chiefs. His presence set back this franchise for over a decade. We picked up Rich Gannon in FA, thank God we got rid of that loser before he harmed the team. James Hasty is simply a Chiefs planet myth, created by one play where Marty Schottenheimer kissed his bald head after he intercepted the raiders to produce a touchdown in overtime. Hasty actually ruined the secondary and disrupted team harmony. I can tell few here remember the disaster that was Glenn Parker and how he ruined our offensive line in 1997 and 1998.

Forget about free agents.They're worthless!
but we didn't win a Super Bowl...(that's what all the Mecca's will say)

Hootie 12-25-2008 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5327387)
The FA market is completely different now than it was at the times guys like Hasty got into it...
I don't disagree but it's not like free agency isn't important.

Mecca 12-25-2008 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5327388)
but we didn't win a Super Bowl...(that's what all the Mecca's will say)
The FA market is nothing like it was in the 90s......sighting guys like Weigman and Holmes is fine know why? The Chiefs signed them as middle and low tier free agents to no money.

The Chiefs biggest problem has been not knowing when to walk away from players, they gave 2 RB's in consecutive situations contracts they shouldn't have.


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