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Bambi 01-12-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 5383455)
Morningstar wouldn't even have a scholarship if there weren't so many potential black athletes in jail.

:shake:

ArrowheadHawk 01-12-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 5384023)
Yup. KU needs to BE the superior competition. That's the problem this year. Oh well. A NC certainly eases the disappointment of this season. I feel bad for Collins and Aldrich this year, though. A couple more pieces and we could really be something special.

I think next years team could be pretty sweet if Collins and Aldrich stay and wall or stephenson comits.

Buehler445 01-12-2009 09:04 PM

Since the Tennessee game, I've lightened on Morningstar. It is unfortunate though, that we don't have talent that just blows him out of the water. I guess thats the breaks of being a KU fan. But I have to put my faith in Self. He delivered a NC in 5 years with his guys. I have no reason not to trust his judgement. He could be a cagey role player on a very good team. He is playing up to his potential IMO. Some of the other young guys though.......

ArrowheadHawk 01-12-2009 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5384253)
Since the Tennessee game, I've lightened on Morningstar. It is unfortunate though, that we don't have talent that just blows him out of the water. I guess thats the breaks of being a KU fan. But I have to put my faith in Self. He delivered a NC in 5 years with his guys. I have no reason not to trust his judgement. He could be a cagey role player on a very good team. He is playing up to his potential IMO. Some of the other young guys though.......

I remember when Chalmers, Robinson and DJ looked bad also.

Buehler445 01-12-2009 09:32 PM

Thats why I put my faith in self.

Mr. Laz 01-12-2009 09:46 PM

the morris twins are why we a sucking ass, not morningstar


morningstar is a role player ...... he is doing his job


the morris twins haven't been able to play decent ball for more than a 5 minute stretch.

Collins is suppose to be a superstar and he implodes has soon as the pressure mounts.

ArrowheadHawk 01-12-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5384324)
the morris twins are why we a sucking ass, not morningstar


morningstar is a role player ...... he is doing his job


the morris twins haven't been able to play decent ball for more than a 5 minute stretch.

Collins is suppose to be a superstar and he implodes has soon as the pressure mounts.

At least he isn't fouling out so fast lately.

Reaper16 01-13-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5384324)
the morris twins are why we a sucking ass, not morningstar


morningstar is a role player ...... he is doing his job


the morris twins haven't been able to play decent ball for more than a 5 minute stretch.

Collins is suppose to be a superstar and he implodes has soon as the pressure mounts.

This seems spot-on. Morningstar isn't exactly lighting the gym on fire, but he shouldn't have to be. The more KU needs Morningstar to perform, the worse off they are.

Skip Towne 01-13-2009 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 5383455)
Morningstar wouldn't even have a scholarship if there weren't so many potential black athletes in jail.

ZING!!

Silock 01-13-2009 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5384324)
the morris twins are why we a sucking ass, not morningstar


morningstar is a role player ...... he is doing his job


the morris twins haven't been able to play decent ball for more than a 5 minute stretch.

Collins is suppose to be a superstar and he implodes has soon as the pressure mounts.

I don't think for one second that Morningstar is the cause of our problems. Him being a starter certainly is a symptom, though.

Skip Towne 01-13-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 5383239)
That's the problem with this team -- they're not good enough. Morningstar has so far been an average guard. He has moments of brilliance, and then he has moments where he airballs a finger roll layup. He's not been terribly consistent.

We need better guards. We won't win a NC with Morningstar as a starting guard. He'd be fine coming off the bench.

Remember the '88 season when we won it all? We were woefully thin at guard. So much so that Brown had to go ask a football player, Clint Normore, to come help out. That team would have loved to have a Morningstar type around. I see no reason at all to dis Brady. Most every team can use a player like him.

ClevelandBronco 01-13-2009 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis (Post 5383455)
Morningstar wouldn't even have a scholarship if there weren't so many potential black athletes in jail.

Thank you, Jason.

Silock 01-13-2009 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5384523)
Remember the '88 season when we won it all? We were woefully thin at guard. So much so that Brown had to go ask a football player, Clint Normore, to come help out. That team would have loved to have a Morningstar type around. I see no reason at all to dis Brady. Most every team can use a player like him.

It would be exceedingly difficult for us to repeat this year. It was Danny and the Miracles for a reason. It was a gigantic miracle. I don't think a situation like that is likely to happen again.

I'm not dissing Brady so much as saying he's not good enough. To me, there's a difference. He's a good player, but we need greatness. The loss on Saturday proved that.

Buehler445 01-13-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 5384571)
It would be exceedingly difficult for us to repeat this year. It was Danny and the Miracles for a reason. It was a gigantic miracle. I don't think a situation like that is likely to happen again.

I'm not dissing Brady so much as saying he's not good enough. To me, there's a difference. He's a good player, but we need greatness. The loss on Saturday proved that.

Eh, I don't think so. Every team needs a glue guy. Every team needs a role player. You're not going to stack a roster with superstars. I think the superstars we have need to ****ing play like it.

sedated 01-13-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5385710)
Every team needs a glue guy. Every team needs a role player.

there's a difference between a role player who HAS to be a role player because of the talent around him (Sherron Collins, Darnell Jackson), and a role player that simply cannot do anything more (Christian Moody, Brady Morningstar)


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