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Pioli and Herms Tampa 2 (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200454)

RippedmyFlesh

01-16-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5396361)

You won't be getting a safety like Ed Reed in rnds 3-5.

Exactly,if you want the next Reed you have to take 1st safety picked in round 1 and hope.

BigChiefFan

01-16-2009 11:38 AM

Taylor Mays is staying in school.

smittysbar

01-16-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5396382)

But he did run a 3-4 in New York with Cottrell. Herm is not an X's and O's coach and he probably relies on his defensive coordinator to run whatever defense he wants anyway.

The Tampa 2 actually does work in the NFL, but you need a lot of creativity behind it. And I'm not convinced anyone has that creativity except Monte Kiffin. So I agree that they need to move away from the Cover 2.

I know a 3-4 will lesser utilize Dorsey's talents, but I still think that's a direction we should move toward.

So you think it was Gunther that wanted to run the Tampa 2? :spock:

BigChiefFan

01-16-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5396355)

safety rashard Johnson from Alabama he is a playmaker much like ED Reed. We could get hi m between rounds 3-5.

I had him in my mock draft as a 4th rounder, because we will be picking so high in each round. I also think he's a stud and would be a value pick in the 4th round.

talastan

01-16-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5396191)

Blah Blah Blah with the Patsification of the Chiefs.. What we should be asking is can Pioli get the right players for the Tampa 2 and Bucsification?

We are in dire need of some LB's, safties and a push from the DL, will Herm and Pioli be able to find those guys and get this defense out of the cellar?

We need at least 2 safeties, 2 LB's and two soild down linemen this off season to make a difference with this defense... Yes I know that is alot to ask for, but we need help and badly...

Stating the possiblity of Herm returning? Who are you and how did you hack Reerun's login?! :spock:

BigChiefFan

01-16-2009 12:11 PM

We don't even have the right players to run the cover two and the system is flawed, why on Earth would we continue on the road to ruin? Ain't happening-Herm's as good as gone.

MahiMike

01-16-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5396252)

Because he is the HC and that is his defense of preference...

Cart...

Horse...

Kerberos

01-16-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59 (Post 5396200)

We're so bad on D right now it would be the perfect time to scrap the cover 2. And that means get rid of Herm!

What? You don't like the Cover "WHO" defense?

:D

Reerun_KC

01-16-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan (Post 5396582)

Stating the possiblity of Herm returning? Who are you and how did you hack Reerun's login?! :spock:

Just saying that as a Chiefs fan since the mid 80's, I am used to failure from this franchise, therefore I would expect anything promising anytime soon..

blueballs

01-16-2009 12:47 PM

Reerun has sworn off sex
until Herm is fired

Reerun_KC

01-16-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5396739)

Reerun has sworn off sex
until Herm is fired

He better hurry up and get fired, I picked up a bottle of wine today for Mrs Reerun_KC....

We are going to have some US time tonight..... :D

Chris Meck

01-16-2009 01:48 PM

I'm no huge fan of the cover 2, but I really don't understand the fascination with the 3-4. A lot of people seem to think it's some magic bullet.

We don't really have ANY players suited to it. Like none.

Ok, MAYBE McBride.

talastan

01-16-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 5396906)

I agree, I think that we stick with the 4-3 and use a more blitz heavy scheme like the Giants or Eagles IMO. Attack the QB and use more man-to-man coverage. Our DB's are talented enough and with a good pass rush I think this would be the best option given the players we have currently on our roster and who will be available in the draft and FA.

RustShack

01-16-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 5396906)

McBride, Boone, Babin, DJ, Flowers, Carr, Page, Pollard would all fit. We have a few backup LB's that fit the 3-4 better than they do the 4-3. Tank and Dorsey MIGHT be able to play 3-4 DE, but they would be better DT's in the 4-3. We will also likely start signing players who fit the 3-4 more and also draft them since we will likely be running it within the next couple years...

RustShack

01-16-2009 02:12 PM

We need a lot of new players on defense no matter what system we run anyways.

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