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sodcat 01-18-2009 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 5401254)
Chris Simms or Bruce Gradkowski.
thats funny! and most likely true!

Dylan 01-18-2009 08:24 AM
Gruden: Good Lord, Gruden, the so called "Offensive Guru," has never developed a QB in Tampa Bay. Come to think about it, I can't name one player, Gruden had developed. He loves signing FA's and/or players from other teams, though.

Players sign on and then they die.

They're either old or washed up. Gawd forgive me.

C-Mac 01-18-2009 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 5401017)
...and this is where someone started drinking the special kool-aid. Was Elway a great QB? Yes. Best to ever play the game? :bong:
There no doubt he was the most gifted physically talented QB of our era and perhaps the greatest when you look at all the intangibles. As it pains me to say it, if I had to pick a one QB for to play for my all pro team, it would have to be Elway.

EyePod 01-18-2009 08:50 AM
Man, Whitlock has some weird man-crush on Jeff George. It's borderline creepy.

wazu 01-18-2009 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5401297)
Man, Whitlock has some weird man-crush on Jeff George. It's borderline creepy.
It's self-deprecating humor. They are old buddies, and there was a time when Whitlock was promoting Jeff George when it was actually a legitimate idea.

wazu 01-18-2009 09:06 AM
As for Gruden, I am split. I'm not sure who the great, young QBs were that he turned into headcases. I suspect they were weak-minded to begin with and couldn't hold up to the legitimate demands of the game at the NFL level. I mean, aren't we talking about Chris Sims? Doesn't he have a tattoo of his male BFF on his ass or something?

13and3 01-18-2009 09:09 AM
we need marty, or herm, someone who can evaluate talent in the draft,. The rat is not that person

58-4ever 01-18-2009 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 5401330)
we need marty
Yeah, about as much as I need big red sores all around my johnson. :rolleyes:

Agent V 01-18-2009 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 5401330)
we need marty, or herm, someone who can evaluate talent in the draft,. The rat is not that person
Yeah. Just ask Eddie Royal.

the Talking Can 01-18-2009 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5401413)
Yeah. Just ask Eddie Royal.
or Maurice Clarett

siberian khatru 01-18-2009 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5401421)
or Maurice Clarett
Hey, those "free picks" don't count.

Adept Havelock 01-18-2009 10:16 AM
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It's a valid arguement, if one places Elway on the 80's 49er roster he could've won 4 superbowls like Montana did.
He's one of the best...but the best? Nope.

It's not just what the man did, but when he did it (considering the rules of the game).

:)

BucEyedPea 01-18-2009 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 5401324)
As for Gruden, I am split. I'm not sure who the great, young QBs were that he turned into headcases. I suspect they were weak-minded to begin with and couldn't hold up to the legitimate demands of the game at the NFL level. I mean, aren't we talking about Chris Sims? Doesn't he have a tattoo of his male BFF on his ass or something?
Gruden is what I call a camoflaged hole. He's not a genius. He just looked like one. The Bucs won their SB because they knew the Raider's playbook and well. Lynch said he knew exactly where the ball was going. The Raiders didn't change their playbook which gave Gruden that edge with Dungy's team.

Plus Gruden didn't treat players well and is too much of a hot-head.

I say the Chiefs are better off without him. He's been exposed for what he really is—a mediocre coach.

boogblaster 01-18-2009 10:26 AM
Elway good and lucky .. didn't win a SB till T. Davis got there ...

Brock 01-18-2009 10:30 AM
Gruden sucks. He's a camera-hounding fool.


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