He basically confirmed all of the things that fans have been speculating about for years:

1. Herm insisted on a cover 2 and Gun wasn't a good match for that scheme.
2. The team had no veteran leadership.
3. You don't trade away your best player, especially when it is a pass rushing DE.
4. Gun and Herm are weasels that will push women and children out of their way as they head for the lifeboats.

Oh yeah, everybody here looooves the cover 2 defense.

Just saying that Gunther was part of the problem and very thankful he is gone, but the problem is deeper than just Gunther as you stated...

I forgot how much you cherrished it... My appologies for saying anything bad about it...:D

I never said that the Tampa 2 isn't the problem, but grow some balls and do something about it. We don't have the player personnel on defense to run the Tampa 2. Gun couldn't get Herm to change his mind about using it though. Chan Gailey got it across that we needed to change the offense when it wasn't working, why coudln't Gun?

:clap:

Gunther is getting a lot of blame...and I'm not saying he's the best defensive coordinator or talent evaluator in the league...but the failures of the Chiefs defense sit at the feet of Herm Edwards.

It's true, Gunther was running Herm's scheme....with the players Herm wanted. Not saying Gunther would have done better had he free reign to pick his players and run his overly aggressive stuff.....but this year is all Herm Edwards, imo.

QFT!

I will agree to this and endorse this post....

:shrug: Both are weak minded is my guess?

Just to play Devil's advocate here. Perhaps because Herm knows he is not an offensive guru but thinks he knows a lot about defense. Therefore, Herm wanted to control the defense more. I dunno, just a thought.

Agree, I was never sold on Gunther in his return.. His players flopped faster than Tyler Handsjob with nobody around him...

**** you Gunther!!! :cuss:


Alas, it does not matter what he says about the Chiefs. All I know is that he is gone and I am happy. Hopefully, Gun will master the "32" Defense in Detroit.

This does make him out to be a whiner (which i believe he is)....but, what he is saying does sound reasonable.

Very nice twisted way to look at it?

Petro's comment from earlier today is valid:

The fact that Gunther was hired shows that at least one respected, young HC believes that the defense wasn't Gun's fault, so this puts it on the doorstep of Herm Edwards.

Petro wasn't trying to excuse Gun, and neither am I, but it was an interesting comment.