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htismaqe 04-26-2009 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711231)
Super.

So let's under utilize these guys next season and lose any potential trade value that they might have had.

I hope all you "Jesus" Curry people are happy now.

Third defensive end in three years in the top two rounds. Plus a DT in the top five last year who is going to have to be converted to a DE.

Just ****ing super.

It's not about trade value, it's about finding out that some of these guys don't NEED trade value because they're FIT INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

Tyson Jackson is in INFINITELY better use of the #3 pick than a ****ing inside linebacker.

htismaqe 04-26-2009 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711175)
Unless you are satisfied with the pissing away of recent early draft picks like Tank Tyler, Turk McBride, Tamba Hali, and Glenn Dorsey, I don't see much of a position of need with the pick of Tyson Jackson at #3.

Tank can play in a 3-4. Dorsey WILL play in the 3-4. And the 3-4 might just SAVE the careers of Hali and McBride. So yes, I'm VERY satisfied.

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711175)
Especially considering that our right side of the offensive line got two of our starting quarterbacks killed last season and forced us to go with a 7th round Minnesota practice squad qb cast off to be the first full fledged spread option offense that the NFL has ever seen.

Yeah, we should have drafted Eugene Monroe, right? I guess I'm missing how a LEFT tackle helps the RIGHT side of the line.

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711175)
Versus linebacker.
- Oh noes! Like we didn't need a good linebacker!

We need LB's, and I'm guessing we'll get them at some point. Drafting an ILB at #3 overall is STUPID.

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711175)
Versus offensive line.
- Let's get Cassel killed early on in the season so that second round draft pick is a piss away!

Because lord know we could have fixed the RIGHT side of the line at #3, right?

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711175)
Versus a vertical passing game.
- Because we can always dump it off to our Pro Bowl Tight En...I mean, Larry Johns...I mean Brad Cotto...ah, **** it.

What? Who were you going to take at #3? Maclin or DHB? Let me guess, you're going to suggest taking Crabtree would have helped the vertical passing game.

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711175)
Versus a pass rush.
- I embrace the fact that we set a new standard of low for the NFL history books.

A 2-gap defensive end that can hold the point of attack and free up LINEBACKERS to get sacks is an essential piece of fixing the pass rush. Read up on the 3-4, you might feel better.

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711175)
Pissing away the #5 last year on a defensive tackle who is going to have to convert to the RDE spot, and our #2 two years ago on Turk, who is now what?

Why the **** should Scott Pioli, with his 3 Super Bowl ring, give one flying ****ing shit about who Herm Edwards drafted? For all we know, the reason we set a "standard of low" as you put it is because Dorsey, Tank, McBride, and Hali ALL SUCK ASS. Get over it. JFC.

Mr. Arrowhead 04-26-2009 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711231)
Super.

So let's under utilize these guys next season and lose any potential trade value that they might have had.

I hope all you "Jesus" Curry people are happy now.

Third defensive end in three years in the top two rounds. Plus a DT in the top five last year who is going to have to be converted to a DE.

Just ****ing super.

go find a new team

htismaqe 04-26-2009 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 5711829)
go find a new team

Haven't you heard? We need Curry to make it to the Super Bowl this year.

bdeg 04-26-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo (Post 5711254)
And Baltimore gets Oher and Kruger with their first two picks...

**** me.

And we pick a 3-4 DE with the third pick?

And Green Bay pisses away a second and two thirds to move up to get a special teams standout?

And we pick a 3-4 DE, a guy that is meant to be a speed bump, a pile of flotsam, at the #3 spot?

**** me running.

Baltimore lucked out and damn that team is stacked for the next 10 years. Wow.

thing is, our linebackers are servicable, something you can't say about the DL. if we'd gone into the season with them we would've gotten run the f over all over again. When I think about it, there were a TON of quality olb's in this draft, maybe we were hoping one would slide later. You can't say that about 3-4 de's. Got some real physical guys, must be depending on scheme to get sacks next season, I can only hope we get some good 3-4 lb's next year.

MoreLemonPledge 04-26-2009 06:53 PM

I'm pissed. We should have drafted somebody that we can shoehorn onto our team regardless of how he fit. I mean, seriously. Mel Kiper, Jr. and Todd McShay both had Jackson lower on their big board than 3. It just makes no sense.

Now we're stuck with a player that fits perfectly into what we're transitioning to. That sucks. I would have much rather had another OLB or another QB or another WR.

/sarcasm (obviously?)

kcxiv 04-28-2009 11:20 PM

Saccago got owned by Htismaqe. lol. Always nice to watch such awesome ownage, that they have nothing for a comeback.

DaneMcCloud 04-28-2009 11:35 PM

I can't ****ing believe it but I agree with Saccogoo.

This was a ****ing horrific draft. Pioli and Haley decided to turn their back on the existing young roster. They decided to **** the Chiefs and do it their way.

Personally, I'm ****ing pissed. The Chiefs could have had Sanchez, Unger, Urbick, Murphy, Ingram, Ellison and Louis to shore up their offense for YEARS.

Instead, they have some questionable guys at DE, a questionable CB (**** ME; like Flowers, Carr and Leggett are somehow inadequate?) and a ****ing right tackle that was on NO ONE'S radar.

Pioli better know something. Otherwise, he's going to look more foolish than Carl Peterson.

At least Peterson drafted a Hall of Famer in his first draft.

DaneMcCloud 04-28-2009 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5711226)
After reading Jackson's interview, I like the guy a lot more now. Im beginning to like the thought of Jackson as our pick.

You're ****ing stupid.

Who gives a rat's ass what the guy has to say?

He's a 5 tech taken at #3 overall.

He better be the baddest mother****er on the planet on the field or he's a complete bust.

htismaqe 04-29-2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5724513)
I can't ****ing believe it but I agree with Saccogoo.

This was a ****ing horrific draft. Pioli and Haley decided to turn their back on the existing young roster. They decided to **** the Chiefs and do it their way.

Personally, I'm ****ing pissed. The Chiefs could have had Sanchez, Unger, Urbick, Murphy, Ingram, Ellison and Louis to shore up their offense for YEARS.

Instead, they have some questionable guys at DE, a questionable CB (**** ME; like Flowers, Carr and Leggett are somehow inadequate?) and a ****ing right tackle that was on NO ONE'S radar.

Pioli better know something. Otherwise, he's going to look more foolish than Carl Peterson.

At least Peterson drafted a Hall of Famer in his first draft.

You agree with him?

You HONESTLY think we'd be better off with Curry?

ROFL

Get ahold of yourself Dane.

Archie Bunker 04-29-2009 08:35 AM

Anyone know what happened after his Soph. year to cause such a drop in sacks? Going from 10 one year to 8.5 combined over the next 2 is quite a drop.

Scheme change? Fluke?

Chiefnj2 04-29-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 5724999)
Anyone know what happened after his Soph. year to cause such a drop in sacks? Going from 10 one year to 8.5 combined over the next 2 is quite a drop.

Scheme change? Fluke?

Possibly the loss of 3 DT's who were drafted in the NFL.

htismaqe 04-29-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5725057)
Possibly the loss of 3 DT's who were drafted in the NFL.

Yeah, I think he took on an increased focus from opponents year-over-year as he went from the least-talented defensive lineman on the team to the most-talented defensive lineman on the team.

CupidStunt 04-29-2009 11:45 AM

Pretty sure he played at around 270lb. his sophomore season. He was "only" 260 outta high school.

kcxiv 04-29-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5724855)
You agree with him?

You HONESTLY think we'd be better off with Curry?

ROFL

Get ahold of yourself Dane.

You know dane's grumpy ass over reacts to everything.

Like it or not we are basically starting from square 1. Herm tried to build and failed ****ing miserably, thats why he's not around.

If it takes a few years, then so be it, we are going on 40 ****ing years anyways. So what if its a few more.


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